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   Brodie Robertson (brodieonlinux@linuxrocks.online)'s status on Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 20:44:07 JST Brodie Robertson

   • Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora:

   Today we have the one and only @Conan_Kudo on the show, if you've been at all involved in the development of Fedora Linux, OpenSUSE, CentOS and may more projects you've heard the name.

   Video Release: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yRrraoMee4

   Audio Release: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tech-over-tea/episodes/Improving-Fedora-Linux-From-The-Inside--Neal-Gompa-e29kopb

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     Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora: (conan_kudo@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 20:44:05 JST Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora:

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     @probono @BrodieOnLinux The thing is, I don't see it being a bad thing that it's a complete departure. That would imply I thought X11 is good. We all know it's not good.

     But replacing 40+ years of baggage is hard, and as @thisweekinkde put it: "shell-shocked X developers" went completely in the opposite direction of X11. It's taken 15 years, but we're finally here in terms of parity in capabilities and desktop environment support.

     But it's still different, and that's okay.

     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: and :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: :blobancap: :blobcattrans: like this.
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     probono (probono@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 20:44:06 JST probono

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     • Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora:

     Really wish there were more community members like @Conan_Kudo who care about the greater "Desktop Linux" as a whole, not just about one particular distribution. And actually do things on a volunteer basis. Appreciate his work bridging communities, e.g., his work to bring Snap to Fedora. Sounds like an uphill battle though?

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     probono (probono@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 20:44:06 JST probono

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     • Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora:

     Regarding #Wayland, @Conan_Kudo nails it with "total protocol breakage and everything being completely different". And interesting to hear that @BrodieOnLinux is not using #Wayland due to "issues". "There are issues with Nvidia, absolutely. There are issues with window-manager-y things." So basically we all agree!

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 20:48:19 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora:
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     • Joshua Lee
     @Conan_Kudo @10leej @BrodieOnLinux @probono Uh?
     But anyway for OBS there's wlrobs which is nicely efficient thanks to dmabuf letting you have zero-copy (so the situation goes better than on XOrg).
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     Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora: (conan_kudo@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 20:48:20 JST Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora:

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     • Joshua Lee

     @10leej @BrodieOnLinux @probono Right, I'm aware of the philosophy that wlroots (and xdg-desktop-portal-wlr) holds, and it is unlikely that x-d-p-wlr will gain complete portal services coverage because of it.

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     Joshua Lee (10leej@mk.starnix.network)'s status on Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 20:48:21 JST Joshua Lee

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     • Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora:
     • probono

     @probono@fosstodon.org @Conan_Kudo@fosstodon.org @BrodieOnLinux@linuxrocks.online he's not using wayland because his issues where hyperland specific and Sway's got some missing features he likes.