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    alcinnz (alcinnz@floss.social)'s status on Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 03:10:48 JST alcinnz alcinnz

    India Should Switch Off IPv4 Internet - Rohan D: https://rohanrd.xyz/posts/india-should-switch-off-ipv4-internet/

    In conversation Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 03:10:48 JST from floss.social permalink

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      India Should Switch Off IPv4 Internet
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      IPv6 migration has been dragging on for a decades now and there’s no end in sight for this migration to complete. Huge software companies like Amazon are buying even more IPv4 addresses to continue to support IPv4 users. Given the current stance of corporations and many governments it seems that Internet will forever be split into two protocols. Worldwide 45% of Internet users are on IPv6. This number is quite low if you take into consideration the fact that IPv6 was created almost 3 decades ago.
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      Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 03:10:47 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
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      @alcinnz Even at best it'll means India being disconnected of at least half of the internet for several years…
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      • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

      @lanodan @alcinnz Then they can have No-IPv4 Wednesdays, or something. But I think going the whole way might be wise.

      Microsoft has substantial IPv6 infrastructure; I bet they could make the transition between the announcement and the implementation of no-IPv6. And if they don't… we don't *need* GitHub. There are plenty of mirrors to get software that's hosted there (not to mention IPv4–IPv6 bridging proxies), and there are plenty of alternatives to host your own software on.

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      Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 03:20:27 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
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      @wizzwizz4 @alcinnz You're talking about one of the biggest country simply going offline from legacy-internet, not something like a university where you *maybe* could handle it gracefully.
      (And there is servers hosted in India btw)
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      wizzwizz4 (wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 03:30:29 JST wizzwizz4 wizzwizz4
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      @lanodan @alcinnz And people outside India would still be able to access those servers, if they have IPv6. (Which I currently don't – but if I could say “I can't access India”, I might *get* it.)

      It wouldn't break many Indian sites in India, because presumably they've mostly all already got IPv6.

      In conversation Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 03:30:29 JST permalink
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      Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 03:30:29 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
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      @wizzwizz4 @alcinnz Only 80% have IPv6 in India, hopefully in that percentage it works at 100% (which I'd really doubt, because so far IPv4 works as a very transparent fallback).

      This is really low, imagine consciously dropping nearly a fourth of your *local* customers/users, even worse for remote ones.
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      Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 03:56:06 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
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      @alcinnz @wizzwizz4
      And in a way that would still allow people to get IPv4 as an option (either on by default or not), because even if all of India would be reachable via IPv6 there would be:
      - Local services hosted in other countries
      - Various admins that didn't set IPv6
      - A whole bunch of software to fix to work in IPv6-only environments
      - Even services with IPv6 would have to make sure that everything they depend on (DNS, CDNs, web widgets, email servers, …) also have IPv6

      And who only uses the internet to reach local services? It's Internet not something like FidoNet.
      In conversation Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 03:56:06 JST permalink
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      alcinnz (alcinnz@floss.social)'s status on Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 03:56:08 JST alcinnz alcinnz
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      @lanodan @wizzwizz4 Yeah, if India were to do this I'd say first get everyone locally on IPv6 (relatively easy for them according to this), then start talking about switching off IPv4.

      In conversation Sunday, 01-Oct-2023 03:56:08 JST permalink

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