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    Joe Ortiz (joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Sep-2023 07:08:07 JST Joe Ortiz Joe Ortiz

    If you're using #Bandcamp, I would strongly advise getting two external hard drives depending on your size and download your purchased #music ASAP since the new owners are a marketing B2B company and I know where this is eventually going. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/28/epic-games-is-eliminating-16percent-of-its-workforce-and-selling-bandcamp.html

    I would not be surprised if Songtradr is going to push the #enshittification button on it. https://www.songtradr.com/blog/posts/songtradr-bandcamp-acquisition/

    In conversation Friday, 29-Sep-2023 07:08:07 JST from mastodon.sdf.org permalink

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    1. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: img-sys.songtradr.com
      Songtradr acquires Bandcamp | Songtradr
      Songtradr will continue to operate Bandcamp as a marketplace and music community with an artist-first revenue share.
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      Joe Ortiz (joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 05:51:59 JST Joe Ortiz Joe Ortiz
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      "Employees were not included in Epic's sale of #Bandcamp. Songtradr purchased the platform's business and operations but not its staff"

      Only a matter of time before the #enshittification button is inevitably pushed. https://www.wired.com/story/epic-games-sale-bandcamp-music-platform-limbo/
      https://web.archive.org/web/20231011071725/https://www.wired.com/story/epic-games-sale-bandcamp-music-platform-limbo/
      https://archive.li/O7TSd

      In conversation Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 05:51:59 JST permalink

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      1. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: media.wired.com
        Epic Games’ Sale of Bandcamp Has Left the Artist-Friendly Music Platform in Limbo
        from Caitlin Harrington
        Bandcamp workers say they are unable to do their jobs after being locked out of critical systems. They’re also expecting layoffs.
      2. Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: web.archive.org
        Epic Games’ Sale of Bandcamp Has Left the Artist-Friendly Music Platform in Limbo
        from Caitlin Harrington
        Bandcamp workers say they are unable to do their jobs after being locked out of critical systems. They’re also expecting layoffs.

      AnthonyJK-Admin repeated this.
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      Joe Ortiz (joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 05:52:00 JST Joe Ortiz Joe Ortiz
      in reply to

      Here's a nice thread on the saga. https://mastodon.social/@mcc/111143889606615360

      In conversation Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 05:52:00 JST permalink

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        mcc (@mcc@mastodon.social)
        from mcc
        WHY DID YOU BUY BANDCAMP IF YOU WERE JUST GOING TO SELL IT 18 MONTHS LATER?! https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/28/epic-games-is-eliminating-16percent-of-its-workforce-and-selling-bandcamp.html I trusted Epic not to screw up Bandcamp, but I don't have any idea who these new owners are. I have very little emotional attachment to Epic. If Epic winds up being the motive agent by which Bandcamp gets transitioned from a healthy standalone company and social space to a dead mall, that will be an evil that outstrips everything good they've ever done from my perspective
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      Joe Ortiz (joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 05:52:00 JST Joe Ortiz Joe Ortiz
      in reply to

      What we really need in the long run is a creator-owned preferably decentralized music platform alternative and I hope there's people out there in the world that is willing to create one.

      In conversation Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 05:52:00 JST permalink
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      Joe Ortiz (joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 05:52:35 JST Joe Ortiz Joe Ortiz
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      • Bandcamp United

      Welp, almost 50% of #Bandcamp staffers were laid off today. The #enshittification button push was inevitable as I said. https://nitter.unixfox.eu/modernistwitch/status/1713962311579234428

      Hacker News discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37903172

      More reactions:
      https://social.lol/@stefan/111245993557957559
      https://spaceballs.masto.host/@nedraggett/111245861885056429
      https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/epic-games-cuts-almost-half-of-bandcamp-pre-songtradr-sale

      It surely didn't take too long for #EpicGames and #Songtradr to say "Fuck the Bandcamp workers for our bottom lines!"

      I'm sure @bandcampunited has tons to say about this in due time.

      Support them!!

      In conversation Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 05:52:35 JST permalink

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      1. No result found on File_thumbnail lookup.
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37903172More
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        stefan b (@stefan@social.lol)
        from stefan b
        about half of my colleagues at #Bandcamp just got laid off, after Epic Games sold us to Songtradr a few weeks ago so if your company has any vacancies and you want to hire compassionate and highly-driven people, especially in any musical or altruistic tech businesses, please share your links and I'll pass them along
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        Ned Raggett (@nedraggett@spaceballs.masto.host)
        from Ned Raggett
        Attached: 1 image I am extremely disappointed, if sadly unsurprised, to learn that jj skolnik, per this post on Bluesky, has been laid off by #Bandcamp. An excellent editor and union organizer/supporter, and the sale of Bandcamp to #Songtradr is clearly already bearing bitter fruit.

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      Seasons of Jason (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 05:52:35 JST Seasons of Jason Seasons of Jason
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      • Bandcamp United

      @joeo10 @bandcampunited Fuck. I don't know what else to say right now.

      In conversation Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 05:52:35 JST permalink
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      GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 05:54:39 JST GNU Too GNU Too
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      @joeo10 you mean, like #Funkwhale?
      In conversation Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 05:54:39 JST permalink
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      AnthonyJK-Admin (anthonyjk@mastodon.redgarterclub.com)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 08:50:03 JST AnthonyJK-Admin AnthonyJK-Admin
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      • Bandcamp United

      @joeo10 @bandcampunited

      It goes without saying: Anything that can be useful for regular folks will eventually be bought out, privatized, and deunionized for private profit.

      #CapitalismIsEnshittificstionMonetized
      #Bandcamp #Enshittification

      In conversation Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 08:50:03 JST permalink
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      Joe Ortiz (joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:19:26 JST Joe Ortiz Joe Ortiz
      in reply to

      EDIT: I added a news link to the thread above to further describe the layoffs and the #enshittification of #Bandcamp

      It's a sad sight.

      In conversation Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:19:26 JST permalink
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      Generic Sadboy 1916 (chriscoreline@todon.nl)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:21:40 JST Generic Sadboy 1916 Generic Sadboy 1916
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      • Bandcamp United

      @joeo10 @bandcampunited

      fingers crossed this re-doubles focus on things like resonate as a viable alternative.

      Developers who spend all their time complaining need to get off their ass and do some praxis-coding

      In conversation Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:21:40 JST permalink
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      Joe Ortiz (joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:23:24 JST Joe Ortiz Joe Ortiz
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      • Jesse

      @jaawerth I know, but it's still a influential website and there are folks there that are just as frustrated and pissed as we are.

      In conversation Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:23:24 JST permalink
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      Jesse (jaawerth@functional.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:23:25 JST Jesse Jesse
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      • Bandcamp United

      @joeo10 @bandcampunited Good lord, I know it's HN, but the private equity bronalysis in that HN thread 💀

      In conversation Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:23:25 JST permalink
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      Joe Ortiz (joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:25:27 JST Joe Ortiz Joe Ortiz
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      • Bandcamp United
      • Nicd (EN)

      @nicd @bandcampunited And now, it seems to me unless something else comes up, musicians and users alike are likely be at the mercy of Apple and Spotify.

      A sad sight. :(

      In conversation Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:25:27 JST permalink
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      Nicd (EN) (nicd@social.ahlcode.fi)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:25:35 JST Nicd (EN) Nicd (EN)
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      • Bandcamp United

      @joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org @bandcampunited@union.place Wow, this is sad. :( I loved Bandcamp, it was my main source of purchasing music if an artist was on there.

      In conversation Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:25:35 JST permalink
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      Joe Ortiz (joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:26:44 JST Joe Ortiz Joe Ortiz
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      • Bandcamp United
      • Tim N7KOM

      @tsherrygeo @bandcampunited It's a good idea to download your purchased music ASAP before it's too late as I mentioned at the start of this thread.

      In conversation Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:26:44 JST permalink
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      Tim N7KOM (tsherrygeo@mastodon.radio)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:26:45 JST Tim N7KOM Tim N7KOM
      in reply to
      • Bandcamp United

      @joeo10 @bandcampunited damn, Bandcamp has been my favorite place to purchase music for years.

      In conversation Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:26:45 JST permalink
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      Joe Ortiz (joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:28:25 JST Joe Ortiz Joe Ortiz
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      • David O'Brien

      @iamdavidobrien Yeah they were and it's sad that soon, I might have to refer to them in the past tense more often. :(

      In conversation Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:28:25 JST permalink
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      David O'Brien (iamdavidobrien@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:28:26 JST David O'Brien David O'Brien
      in reply to

      That is so distressing to hear.

      Bandcamp paid artists fairly and was a good platform for so long.

      @joeo10

      In conversation Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:28:26 JST permalink
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      Joe Ortiz (joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:47:46 JST Joe Ortiz Joe Ortiz
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      • Jesse

      @jaawerth No worries, I encounter some myself for the record.

      In conversation Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:47:46 JST permalink
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      Jesse (jaawerth@functional.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:47:47 JST Jesse Jesse
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      @joeo10 fwiw, wasn't trying to drag you for linking it or anything, just expressing my horror after seeing way more armchair venture capitalist takes in there than I'd braced myself for ;-)

      In conversation Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 00:47:47 JST permalink
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      Joe Ortiz (joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Friday, 20-Oct-2023 03:22:37 JST Joe Ortiz Joe Ortiz
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      "Bandcamp’s entire union bargaining team, the eight union members democratically elected by their peers to negotiate their first union contract, were laid off when #EpicGames sold #Bandcamp to music licensing company #Songtradr on Monday." https://www.404media.co/bandcamps-entire-union-bargaining-team-was-laid-off/

      That is #enshittification at it's finest folks.

      Like I said at the top of this very thread, I would strongly advise getting two external hard drives depending on your size and download your purchased #music ASAP before it's too late.

      In conversation Friday, 20-Oct-2023 03:22:37 JST permalink

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