HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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via Prof. Timothy Snyder, #Yale University in TheGuardian@mstdn.social :
"...#Musk’s actions have increased the chances of nuclear war.
There is always some risk, which Russia increased by initiating a major conflict. Ukraine then decreased the probability by ignoring Russian nuclear blackmail. If Ukraine had surrendered, then the lesson for the rest of the world would have been clear: you must have nuclear weapons, either to blackmail...
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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...or to avoid being blackmailed.
The #Ukrainians took this decision under stress, since if
a weapon were detonated it would be on their territory. #Musk, who was in no danger of any kind, chose instead to give in to the nuclear blackmail, thereby encouraging more of it.
If anything, Musk’s actions also extended the conventional war."
What Prof. Snyder does not realize, that #ElonMusk cannot be taken as a "normal person." And I am not talking about his insane...
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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...grip on global communications and his wealth that dwarfs that of many countries.
No, I am talking about his mental health and about his crazy beliefs based in #Longtermism, part of #TESCREAL.
In order to achieve "humanity's destiny" between the stars, some followers of these cults would do almost anything to achieve that goal.
An #AI singularity, that #Musk and his followers fear would be prevent such a destiny, would even *warrant a #NuclearWar*, even it it meant...
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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...almost anihiltating humanity, about 3 billion people and hundreds of billions of other species. That would be acceptable, if only the biologically required 40k humans would survive this nuclear #Armageddon.
Sounds very far-fetched? Conspiracy Theory level?
Well, did you believe that "free-speach absolutist" #Elmo would turn out to be a fascist oligarch a year ago?
Well, here's an article from 'Émile P. Torres from #TruthDig,...
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
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...who was very much in this cult until 2019.
CW: You should not read on if you are suffering from depression or the like.
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/before-its-too-late-buddy/
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Lurkle DEI makes life great
@HistoPol The clear message of the United States under Trump is that your only hope for sovereignty is nuclear weapons.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
#USpol #GeolPol #NuclearWeappns
Exactly, many analysts see this similarly
Jimijamflimflam
Yeppers. I think since Russia invaded Crimea, that has been the conclusion of countries not wishing to be invaded. Arm up or lose your sovereignty.
Jimijamflimflam
Ukraine gave up its nuclear arms and made a pact they would be protected, the Budapest Memorandum. Russia broke that in ‘14 when it invaded Ukraine and stole Crimea.
So, the lesson I see here is if you don’t want to be invaded, you probably need a nuclear deterrent.
incoherentmumblings
@Jimijamflimflam @Lurkle @HistoPol
I don't see what that would have to do with Crimea.
It has been true since way before Iraq.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
Wow, you really survived a long time here in the #Fediverse as a #RussianTroll, peddling #Puttlers make-believe stories.
I know Crimean people who experienced the invasion of the Kremlin plainclothesmen in 2014.
We don't want you here!
Do something useful for once and play decoy for one of the Shahed drones your would-be Hitler could not even manufacture in Russia, but had to buy from a 3rd world country, in eastern #Ukraine.
incoherentmumblings
@Jimijamflimflam @Lurkle @HistoPol
You got something wrong there. Russia did not "invade" Crimea in 2014, there was a coup in Kiev and the people who voted for the ousted president mostly the southeast incl. Crimea) didn't like it one bit and decided to rebel. Eventually they had a referendum to join Russia instead.
That is nothing nukes could have prevented in any way.
Also, Ukraine could not have afforded to keep those nukes operational anyway, these things are pretty expensive to maintain.
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
Вау, вы действительно долго выживали здесь, в #Fediverse, в качестве #RussianTroll, распространяя #Puttlers неправдоподобные истории.
Я знаю крымчан, которые пережили вторжение кремлевских штатских в 2014 году.
Мы не хотим вас здесь видеть!
Сделайте хоть раз что-нибудь полезное и прикиньтесь приманкой для одного из беспилотников "Шахед", которые ваш потенциальный Гитлер даже не смог произвести в России, а вынужден был закупать в стране третьего мира, на востоке #Украины.
Lurkle DEI makes life great
@incoherentmumblings @Jimijamflimflam @HistoPol Crimea was in fact invaded by Russia.
Lurkle DEI makes life great
@incoherentmumblings @Jimijamflimflam @HistoPol This was not a spontaneous uprising in Crimea.
incoherentmumblings
@Lurkle @Jimijamflimflam @HistoPol
Okay, and? What does that have to do with the facts i mentioned?
Lurkle DEI makes life great
@incoherentmumblings @Jimijamflimflam @HistoPol
“The Izborsk Club also proposed that Russian television channels justify the intervention in Ukraine by the deliberate, premeditated fiction that “a fascist coup is coming”; this would indeed be a major line of Russian propaganda once war began.”
— The Road to Unfreedom: Russia, Europe, America by Timothy Snyder
https://a.co/cpqG2ZP
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
Same.
But I had to give this Russian troll, who had flown under the radar for such a long time, a verbal "beating," first before blicking him/her. 😜
@incoherentmumblings@jorts.horse @Jimijamflimflam
Lurkle DEI makes life great
@incoherentmumblings @Jimijamflimflam @HistoPol And blocked.
incoherentmumblings
@Lurkle @Jimijamflimflam @HistoPol
Nope, in fact it was NOT. That is a flat out lie and there is zero evidence to support it.
Lurkle DEI makes life great
@incoherentmumblings @Jimijamflimflam @HistoPol
“Even as Russian troops were mobilizing to invade Ukraine and overturn its government, Lavrov presented Russia as the victim. The true aggressors, according to Lavrov, were the international gay lobbyists who “propagated with missionary insistence both inside their own countries and in relations with neighbors.” Surkov left Kyiv on February 15.”
— The Road to Unfreedom: Russia, Europe, America by Timothy Snyder
https://a.co/dhcexei
Lurkle DEI makes life great
@incoherentmumblings @Jimijamflimflam @HistoPol
“As with the presidential memorandum, the guiding concept of the Izborsk policy paper was that Russia should seize some Ukrainian territory and then wait for the state to collapse.”
— The Road to Unfreedom: Russia, Europe, America by Timothy Snyder
https://a.co/cTFOdBN
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