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   kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Friday, 15-Sep-2023 16:44:54 JST kaia
   German is so efficient. You say "Fachkräftemangel" for "Companies not paying enough to attract suitable candidates and then complaining to the state to worsen the work environment for everyone so their shitty jobs find candidates again." what a beautiful language
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Sep-2023 16:50:32 JST lainy

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     @kaia wie, ich dachte "fachkräftemangel" liegt am rassismus
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     Princesse Cafou (cafou@raru.re)'s status on Friday, 15-Sep-2023 17:47:46 JST Princesse Cafou

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     @kaia

     And also a funny language : https://bungle.online/notes/9jkajgp0qp

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     no, this is Relected (relected@post.ebin.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Sep-2023 17:47:58 JST no, this is Relected

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     @kaia my favorite German word is Natürlichwissenschafen or something like that
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     funbaker #AssangeIsNotGuilty (funbaker@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 15-Sep-2023 17:50:51 JST funbaker #AssangeIsNotGuilty

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     @kaia Normally it works the opposite in Germany. Long Words consisting of multiple Words to label Things.

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     iDino (itdino@troet.cafe)'s status on Friday, 15-Sep-2023 19:43:47 JST iDino

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     @kaia Tja, Deutsch eben… 😎

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     always tired (moved to chaos) (project1enigma@wandering.shop)'s status on Friday, 15-Sep-2023 19:43:51 JST always tired (moved to chaos)

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     @kaia "and other companies cancelling full remote from their workers and then wondering about competent people leaving" what an efficient language indeed

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     Gehtso (gehtso@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 01:36:49 JST Gehtso

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     @kaia
     sadly true, but self-inflicted.

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     C.Suthorn :prn: (life_is@no-pony.farm)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 01:57:25 JST C.Suthorn :prn:

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     @kaia

     Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetzesentwurfsdebattierklubdiskussionsstandsberichterstattungsgeldantragsformular

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     thepoliticalcat (thepoliticalcat@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 07:08:48 JST thepoliticalcat

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     @kaia Personally, it sounds to me like someone gargling with broken glass, but when it comes to efficiency? I'll go with those bastids.

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     Radoje Radi (radi@ruhr.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 07:28:18 JST Radoje Radi

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     @kaia that’s why I’m thinking about leaving the country.

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     ErnstGucker (ernstgucker@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 17:03:42 JST ErnstGucker

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     @kaia wonderfully perfect translation

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     cb1 🫩 (cb1@chaos.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 18:42:24 JST cb1 🫩

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     @kaia and I thought Fachkräftemangel translates to employee mangle or wringer 🤔

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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 19:29:00 JST kaia

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     @Ann_Effes this was intended as a "shitpost" - deliberately provocative. I agree that reality is more complex than can be explained in a short message. however, many people seem to like the post :WThumbsUp:
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     Ann Effes (ann_effes@berlin.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 19:29:03 JST Ann Effes

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     @kaia
     Well ... No.

     (Payment is of course often an issue. But in many areas it is about the fact that there are e.g. 30 open positions and 5 suitable candidates. With payment and conditions you can regulate WHO gets the candidates, but not that all positions are filled. All in all "Fachkräftemangel" is not a subject area that lends itself well to blanket generalizations.)

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     alpha-o (alphao@mastodon.world)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 02:56:20 JST alpha-o

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     @Ann_Effes @kaia For the IT industry, the sentence is true. „Companies“ try to find people with 20 years of experience in Data Science and AI plus Fullstack development experience and project management skills and don’t find people here in Germany for the same wages they can get from Pure Indian Players or Nearshore Players.

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     Ann Effes (ann_effes@berlin.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 02:56:22 JST Ann Effes

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     @kaia Many like the post because it offers a simple explanation to a complex problem and presents a culprit (or enemy even): "the companies".

     That is dangerous in my opinion, because the topic is related to immigration: With the retirement of the boomer generation, there is a lack of workforces in many areas: we have just not enough people.

     That can probably only be filled by immigrants.

     Arguments that this is not the case but only about money play into the hands of xenophobes such as AfD.

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     Ein Philosophiker (slesa@social.saarland)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 04:16:39 JST Ein Philosophiker

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     @kaia Oh, German also say "Lobbyismus" when they actually mean "Korruption"

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     DesRoin :fullstacklive: (desroin@geekdom.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 16:55:36 JST DesRoin :fullstacklive:

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     @kaia The jobs don't even have to be shitty, just the pay usually is ^^'

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     DjDog (djdog@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 21:33:22 JST DjDog

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     @kaia and also means "We dont give apprenticeship for pupils right after school and only take trained stuff who shows cheap untrained how to work".

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     Heike W 🌈🌳 (haselnusstafel@troet.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 21:33:58 JST Heike W 🌈🌳

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     @kaia And they are mocking people who get Bürgergeld, they should go work instead.

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     alpha-o (alphao@mastodon.world)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 22:37:24 JST alpha-o

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     • Ann Effes

     @Ann_Effes @kaia well, then let’s agree to disagree, as I have other experiences.

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     Ann Effes (ann_effes@berlin.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 22:37:26 JST Ann Effes

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     @alphao @kaia
     I'm afraid I have to disagree here as well.

     This is one of those common images that may have been true in places 5-6 years ago.

     I was working in IT.
     5 years ago we could find experts, often we had to decide whether we want to meet their expectations.
     In the last 4-3 years it was not about payment or conditions anymore. It was only about just getting applicants. ANY applicants. We lowered our requirements and trained the people on the job (which is more expensive btw).

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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 22:45:34 JST kaia

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     @alphao @Ann_Effes
     I have the exact opposite experience interning in HR of a large German software company last year. 1% of candidates applying get hired. 96% fail the pre-screening, 4% get interviewed, 1.5% get offers and 1% accept. I was surprised at the amount of people getting filtered for formal reasons.
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     Kevin Karhan :verified: (kkarhan@mstdn.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 02:49:08 JST Kevin Karhan :verified:

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     @kaia EXACTLY!

     The problem is not finding candidates - every job vacancy can be filled - but not at every cost...

     I.e. I'd consider diving in raw sewage if that filty business would get me paid 6 figures AFTER taxes...

     Everyone has their price...

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     HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 17:02:24 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴

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     @kaia

     Very interesting, in particular as it was a SW company and US companies often pay double or more than the top rate in Germany, even working remotely here seems to be paying better for skilled workers, I learned recently.

     So, what were the "top 5" formal reasons people were filtered out for in the prescreening?

     @Ann_Effes @alphao

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     aquascum (aquasscum@zeroes.ca)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 20:23:51 JST aquascum

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     @Ann_Effes @kaia
     Have to disagree as well. I'm one of these 'desperately needed' Fachkräfte (skilled/trained labour), but I can't find a job where I can work 20 hrs/week for an adequate wage (I actually do have 20 years job experience, no, I'm not working for minimum wage). And no, I can not work full time, I'm caring for my disabled parents.

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     🇺🇦 Anna Filina (afilina@phpc.social)'s status on Monday, 18-Sep-2023 20:48:09 JST 🇺🇦 Anna Filina

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     @Ann_Effes @kaia I tried looking for a job recently. I have plenty of experience and an considered an expert worldwide. And yet must companies either offer shitty salaries or work environments. I try this every 5 years or so to discover that companies get worse with time. I also know plenty of devs who spends months searching. There is no shortage. There are bad workplaces that waste people's potential and pretend there's a shortage to justify their shitty conditions and hiring practices.

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     Alexander Knochel (quantensalat@astrodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Oct-2023 17:29:29 JST Alexander Knochel

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     @kaia In English, it's called "No one wants to work anymore!!!"

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     Felix (DO6FP) (do6fp@social.darc.de)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Oct-2023 17:29:46 JST Felix (DO6FP)

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     • Alexander Knochel

     @quantensalat @kaia You missed the "ö" in work.

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