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    AnthonyJK-Admin (anthonyjk@mastodon.redgarterclub.com)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 12:19:42 JST AnthonyJK-Admin AnthonyJK-Admin

    Oh, HELL TO THE EFFING NO.

    So now, the creators of #BadSpace are throwing out the "Any trans person who disagrees with being falsely and wrongly targeted for racism is a GamerGate Nazi/KKK racist!!!" card on order to justify their overreaching blacklist....ahhhhh, I mean, blocklist??

    Really?

    No. Just.....no.

    In conversation Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 12:19:42 JST from mastodon.redgarterclub.com permalink
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      AnthonyJK-Admin (anthonyjk@mastodon.redgarterclub.com)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 12:29:54 JST AnthonyJK-Admin AnthonyJK-Admin
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      It's one thing to state the fact that the Fediverse is more than open to abuse from rogue agents and poop posters who do deliberately target Black posters.

      It's quite another thing, however, to twist that around and mutate it into "Trans folk are the new KKK; we need a Super Blacklist.... errrrrrrrrrr, admin-allied blocklist to keep them from contaminating out pristine spaces and keep our Fedi clean!!"

      Some of you folks are showing your unwashed asses, and they're dirty and stinking as Hell.

      In conversation Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 12:29:54 JST permalink

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      AnthonyJK-Admin (anthonyjk@mastodon.redgarterclub.com)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 12:37:02 JST AnthonyJK-Admin AnthonyJK-Admin
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      Here's a reminder, folks: I happen to be one of those very marginalized Black Fedi users they talk about getting flooded by racist smack. Hell, my own blocklist that I run here came directly from Oliphant, but with additions by me.

      I can say this as a straight fact: I have blocked and defedded more than my share of instances for attempting racist anti-Black smack.

      NOT A SINGLE GODDESS DAMN ONE OF THEM WAS OPENLY TRANS.

      NOT A ONE OF THEM.

      NOT. A. ONE. OF. THEM.

      In conversation Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 12:37:02 JST permalink
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      AnthonyJK-Admin (anthonyjk@mastodon.redgarterclub.com)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 12:45:44 JST AnthonyJK-Admin AnthonyJK-Admin
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      In fact, almost every instance that I did end up blocking & defedding were from open fascists/Nazis who also happened to run transphobic smack as well.

      Because, that's usually how actual bigots roll.

      Yet, this group puts out a supposed Blocklist and only manages to ping transfemme folk and those who defend them as the only true source of anti-Black racism in the whole damn Fediverse??

      As the great and departed too soon band director/arranger Carnell Knighten would say: "Give ME a break."

      In conversation Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 12:45:44 JST permalink
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      AnthonyJK-Admin (anthonyjk@mastodon.redgarterclub.com)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 13:23:56 JST AnthonyJK-Admin AnthonyJK-Admin

      "B-b-b-b-but, Dawg, some trans folk can be fascists and racists."

      No bueno, Sherlock.

      Some gay folks can be Nazis, too.

      Some Black folk can be homophobes.

      Lots of Christian Right Dominionist consume porn.

      There were actual Democrats who joined the John Birch Society.

      You still don't collectively slander an entire group of people based on the isolated behavior of a small group or an individual of that group just based on your feelz.

      That's basic Anti-Bigotry 101 right there.

      In conversation Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 13:23:56 JST permalink
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      AnthonyJK-Admin (anthonyjk@mastodon.redgarterclub.com)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 13:54:32 JST AnthonyJK-Admin AnthonyJK-Admin
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      You know what is the most cracked thing is about this?

      They claim that it's about checking racist language by transfemmes.

      Yet, one of the main perpetrators of the ambush of Nina based on "Pig Empire" being "antisemitic" and criticism of a conservative South Korean woman being "attacking indigenous women" was willing to spread her smears using an instance that openly spouted antisemitic smack. And, BTW, was included in Oli's original blocklist.

      Sweep around your own front door, please.

      In conversation Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 13:54:32 JST permalink
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      AnthonyJK-Admin (anthonyjk@mastodon.redgarterclub.com)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 14:15:36 JST AnthonyJK-Admin AnthonyJK-Admin
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      • Neo-Rodneyite ✍🏿📖

      @jalcine I know her wrath, dawg. I just edited the offending toot to withdraw her name from this debate.

      In conversation Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 14:15:36 JST permalink
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      Neo-Rodneyite ✍🏿📖 (jalcine@todon.eu)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 14:15:37 JST Neo-Rodneyite ✍🏿📖 Neo-Rodneyite ✍🏿📖

      @AnthonyJK You don't want her for real, blood.

      In conversation Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 14:15:37 JST permalink
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      AnthonyJK-Admin (anthonyjk@mastodon.redgarterclub.com)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 14:25:23 JST AnthonyJK-Admin AnthonyJK-Admin
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      • Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx)

      @Sharksonaplane

      Oh, no doubt.

      I have no issue whatsoever with using blocklists as a means of fencing off and quarantining obviously racist/sexist/bigoted language; and you run your instance as you see fit.

      But, when you abuse that power to collectively unite for a petty vendetta against an isolated group just to smear them for crimes they did not commit, then don't run under the race card to justify your acts.

      Simple. Basic.

      In conversation Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 14:25:23 JST permalink
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      Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx) (sharksonaplane@mastodon.sandwich.net)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 14:25:24 JST Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx) Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx)
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      @AnthonyJK just as a factual correction, the list absolutely includes plenty of extremely obvious toxic bigoted Nazi garbage servers, but there is an "anonymous" page going around that has only focused on the trans spaces on the list in order to defend them. I am not making any statements here as to the intent of that page's framing, just correcting the record.

      In conversation Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 14:25:24 JST permalink
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      AnthonyJK-Admin (anthonyjk@mastodon.redgarterclub.com)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 14:34:47 JST AnthonyJK-Admin AnthonyJK-Admin
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      • Neo-Rodneyite ✍🏿📖

      @jalcine

      Really???

      Even when I admit my mistake and withdraw her name, you are still going to use that to ignore the fundamentals of my critique of targeting those who did nothing wrong, just for the sake of "intersectionality"?

      What "war of ideals" justifies lying about a woman "attacking indigenous women" even after it's admitted she did no such thing?

      What "war of ideals" justifies inventing antisemitism out of thin air?

      What "war of ideals" justifies focusing on trans folk only?

      In conversation Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 14:34:47 JST permalink
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      Neo-Rodneyite ✍🏿📖 (jalcine@todon.eu)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 14:34:49 JST Neo-Rodneyite ✍🏿📖 Neo-Rodneyite ✍🏿📖
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      @AnthonyJK Even without that, this whole thread would have been torn up. It runs counter to both lived experiences (as mentioned here, https://todon.eu/@AnthonyJK@mastodon.redgarterclub.com/111055747225525705, you've placed your experience as the most canonical when collectivity, that isn't the case at all).

      Taking out a name in explicitness doesn't hide the fact that she's solely being used here to make a point that instead of focusing on the real issue of intersectionality, it's best to just enter a "war" of ideals.

      In conversation Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 14:34:49 JST permalink

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        Here's a reminder, folks: I happen to be one of those very marginalized Black Fedi users they talk about getting flooded by racist smack. Hell, my own blocklist that I run here came directly from Oliphant, but with additions by me. I can say this as a straight fact: I have blocked and defedded more than my share of instances for attempting racist anti-Black smack. NOT A SINGLE GODDESS DAMN ONE OF THEM WAS OPENLY TRANS. NOT A ONE OF THEM. NOT. A. ONE. OF. THEM.
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      AnthonyJK-Admin (anthonyjk@mastodon.redgarterclub.com)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 14:41:59 JST AnthonyJK-Admin AnthonyJK-Admin
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      • Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx)

      @Sharksonaplane

      Also, the real issue is NOT that this blocklist shouldn't exist to target openly Nazi/racist/bigoted spaces; it is the implication that instances with no history of racist/misogynist/antisemitic acts or languages should be included in what is touted as a super blocklist just based on feelz unsupported by evidence or context.

      In conversation Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 14:41:59 JST permalink
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      Fish Id Wardrobe (fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 16:31:37 JST Fish Id Wardrobe Fish Id Wardrobe
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      • Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx)

      @AnthonyJK @Sharksonaplane Also: blocking an instance because they didn't like the name of the instance should tell you something.

      In conversation Wednesday, 13-Sep-2023 16:31:37 JST permalink

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