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   Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Monday, 11-Sep-2023 21:40:21 JST Johnny Peligro
   i dont hate linux enough to move to windows, yet at least.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 11-Sep-2023 21:40:20 JST 翠星石

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     @mischievoustomato How can you move from a kernel to an OS?
     
     Install GNU/Hurd.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 11-Sep-2023 21:55:44 JST 翠星石

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     @mischievoustomato "Everyone" has got the wrong idea.
     
     It has been fashionable to bury GNU and all other OS's by referring to GNU/Linux, BusyBox/Linux and systemd/Linux after the name of a kernel because NPCs are obsessed with popular, short, buzzwordy names (even if a shorter, better buzzword would be correct to use) and there's a proprietary agenda to ensure that people never hear of GNU and why it was written.
     
     A similarity would be like if people took to calling yellow; "green", even when provided hard evidence that the colours that compose up the so called "green" are in fact a combination of red and green.
     
     A Linux distribution would be a distribution of Linux, so either the proprietary version from kernel.org, or GNU Linux-libre for example.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Monday, 11-Sep-2023 21:55:46 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @Suiseiseki when i say linux i mean linux distros, and everyone gets it
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 11-Sep-2023 22:11:41 JST 翠星石

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     @mischievoustomato Linux is like the transmission of the car - it's required, but mostly irrelevant as you can swap out the transmission with another one unless you want to use a limited set of specific transmission features.
     
     Testing with Debian GNU/Hurd confirmed that most software doesn't care what kernel you use, as most free software in the Debian tree just worked after being compiled against Hurd's glibc.
     
     Coreutils is only one GNU package out of 385; https://www.gnu.org/software/
     
     Inclusion of GNU coreutils arguably makes a distro GNU/Linux, but there are also other more interesting GNU software that makes up the GNU OS.
     
     The OS I use is GNU Emacs, what bootloader I use doesn't matter too much, whether that's GNU/Linux-libre or GNU/Hurd.
     
     
     I has never asked anyone refer to Linux as "GNU/Linux", all I ask is that GNU is called GNU and Linux is called Linux.
     
     Just like the story; 翠星石 said to them; give back to Linus what is Linus's (Linux) and to GNU what is GNU's.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Monday, 11-Sep-2023 22:11:42 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @Suiseiseki the most important part of the system is the kernel itself, the coreutils fsftards try so hard to sell to try to make people call it "gnu/linux🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓" are meaningless in the grand scheme of things. GNU does not matter.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 11-Sep-2023 22:18:16 JST 翠星石

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     @mischievoustomato GNU Emacs on GNU/Hurd is plenty usable.
     
     Yes, you and most people will continue to use buzzwords incorrectly to the benefit of proprietary software companies and will never see the error of their ways until it's far too late.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Monday, 11-Sep-2023 22:18:17 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @Suiseiseki nice try smartass, no one cares about hurd either because it's barely usable
     
     i and most people will keep saying "linux" to talk about the linux distros that exist around. no reason to irrelevant parties
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 11-Sep-2023 22:31:10 JST 翠星石

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     @mischievoustomato Yes, you refuse to admit you're wrong as well.
     
     >sell it like its the best thing ever
     Linux certainly isn't the best thing ever, as it's proprietary malware.
     
     GNU is the only non-toy 100% free software OS, which makes it the best OS automatically, as what good is an OS if it doesn't respect the users freedom?
     
     >it's a russian roulette
     What are you on about?
     
     The whole idea of Russian roulette was that it was a suicide technique where you have a 5/6 chance of dying, although the 1/6 chance variant has recently become more popular.
     
     It's not comparable as you won't die from using GNU and I've found it to be a hell of a lot more reliable and easier to fix than windows even.
     
     >i regret not getting a macbook
     Who would have thought?
     
     Those macbooks used to come with GNU software, but not Linux (they now come with functionally inferior software that were only used because the licenses such were under doesn't ensure that the users freedom is respected).
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Monday, 11-Sep-2023 22:31:11 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @gray the evangelists sell it like its the best thing ever then you use it and it's a russian roulette. after more than 3 years of using it i regret not getting a macbook, honestly
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     gray (gray@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 11-Sep-2023 22:31:12 JST gray

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     @mischievoustomato I like Linux but man the evangelists make it tough.