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   gme / BOFH ?? ?? (gme@bofh.social)'s status on Thursday, 22-Sep-2022 00:18:07 JST gme / BOFH ?? ??

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   I would think implementing diff into AP would be more elegant. :-)

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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 22-Sep-2022 00:17:59 JST Alex Gleason

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     Gargron being the sole arbiter of ActivityPub features

     The Fediverse is survival of the fittest. Anyone can introduce changes, but it only matters if they deploy it to a server with users. The way to make change on the Fediverse is not by writing documents, but by pushing code to servers that matter. We need to be less in the headspace of a treaty organization and more like Genghis Khan. Because in reality this is a culture war.

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     gme / BOFH ?? ?? (gme@bofh.social)'s status on Thursday, 22-Sep-2022 00:18:01 JST gme / BOFH ?? ??

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     No offense but I'm uncomfortable with Gargron being the sole arbiter of ActivityPub features. Shouldn't ActivityPub be designed and developed by multiple parties? I thought it is developed by a teamwork of individuals.
     
     People already wrongly assume that Mastodon is "the Fediverse" and that's patently false and long term unhealthy for the ecoysystem.
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     Pixelcode 🇺🇦 (pixelcode@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Thursday, 22-Sep-2022 00:18:02 JST Pixelcode 🇺🇦

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     @humanetech @jande @gme @cope Yes, Gargron somewhere replied to me saying he's waiting for more servers to adopt the edit feature.

     However, the latest Mastodon versions already support editing posts (not just displaying someone else's edits) – the feature just isn't included in the UI yet. https://fe.soapbox.pub is a front-end that does, in fact, already include an edit button.

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     smallcircles (Humane Tech Now) (humanetech@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 22-Sep-2022 00:18:03 JST smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

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     @jande @gme @cope

     Ah, that makes sense. I have seen edited toots that were somehow created.

     I also can't remember having seen discussions on how interopable ways to have broad support for the feature should be implemented.

     Thanks :)

     Are you involved with Akkoma project? Is quite recent fork, I learned. I added to https://delightful.club fedi apps list

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     Jan Delta (jande@tilde.zone)'s status on Thursday, 22-Sep-2022 00:18:04 JST Jan Delta

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     @humanetech @gme @cope afaik mastodon supports viewing edits but not creating edits (i think i heard somewhere they're holding off until edits are more widely supported first, but don't quote me on that I've not bothered to confirm it)
     akkoma and i think pleroma develop support both viewing and creating edits
     and misskey (or at least foundkey) supports neither currently

     i don't know what the support state is in others like friendica, gnu social, epicyon, pixelfed, or gotosocial

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     smallcircles (Humane Tech Now) (humanetech@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 22-Sep-2022 00:18:06 JST smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

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     @gme @cope

     Mastodon supports toot editing AFAIK (not on my instance, I think), but I don't know how it is implemented.

     In a wholly different context (#ForgeFederation) diffing of Update msgs recently came up.

     And an idea was posed to have a PartialUpdate activity type.

     https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/remote-partial-updates/2583

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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Thursday, 22-Sep-2022 00:28:21 JST Hoss Delgado

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     Kinda reminds me of how PoW blockchains will fork if the devs introduce a hard fork update that the biggest miners refuse to support.
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     Jan Delta (jande@tilde.zone)'s status on Friday, 23-Sep-2022 21:35:29 JST Jan Delta

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     @humanetech @gme @cope no, I'm not currently involved with the akkoma project

     I'm just active in the side of fedi where foundkey and akkoma are commonly used, so i more or less hear of the state of things with them

     i wouldn't mind being involved with a fedi project, but I've got other things to do so I'm not actively seeking out involvement

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     smallcircles (Humane Tech Now) (humanetech@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 23-Sep-2022 21:35:38 JST smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

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     @jande @gme @cope

     You may be interested in https://coding.social that is very fedi-related and on addressing a bunch of issues we face. We are still ramping up things, not wholly publicly announced and stuff.

     Foundkey is new to me. Is that a fedi app? If yes, I can add to the delightful lists.