Conversation

Notices

1. Embed this notice
   Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:33:05 JST Rusty Crab
   the more I try to research the topic of computer security on forums, the more I'm realizing that a lot of it reads like intentional government misinfo that people just regurgitate.
   • 翠星石 likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:33:02 JST Fediverse Contractor

     in reply to

     • d
     Flagged for what?
   • Embed this notice
     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:33:03 JST Rusty Crab

     in reply to

     • d
     @d a few examples that I commonly see:
     - you should use your ISP raw because we have one case where a sketchy VPN company was used in court in 30 years of their existence despite 80 cases per day of people getting caught because they didn't
     - using a VPN to access tor is dangerous because of <completely incoherent reason>, despite the fact that tor traffic is evident to your ISP and using it a lot will definitely get you flagged
     - hosting your own VPN in a data center is more secure than mixing traffic with others despite you basically owning the computer that the traffic is coming from
     - don't bother using privacy browsers because there's a hypothetical vulnerability somewhere. You might as well just use chrome on windows
   • Embed this notice
     d (d@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:33:04 JST d

     in reply to
     @RustyCrab like what
   • Embed this notice
     a7 (a7@miss.mouse.services)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:59:00 JST a7

     in reply to

     • d

     @RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co @d@clubcyberia.co vpn with tor is silly because it’s just another company with your name and information on hop n . There’s no real point to it and isp have further privacy protecting regulations generally. Rest of this post sure.

     Sexy Moon likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:59:03 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer

     in reply to

     • d
     @RustyCrab @d swiftonsecurity.txt
     Sexy Moon likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 02:00:24 JST Sexy Moon

     in reply to

     • a7
     • d
     @RustyCrab @d @a7 using tor is pointless if you start it up the second you need it because then the connections can be correlated. run a bridge all the time if you need tor. people have been caught trough correlating tor connections to events.
   • Embed this notice
     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 02:00:25 JST Rusty Crab

     in reply to

     • a7
     • d
     @a7 @d I don't believe the feds or ISPs have any respect for process like that. Almost everybody I've ever known or heard of that got in trouble for internet stuff was doing so on a naked connection.
   • Embed this notice
     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 02:00:26 JST Rusty Crab

     in reply to

     • a7
     • d
     @a7 @d it depends on what you're concerned about. VPN traffic is normal these days. Tor traffic is weird enough that it will cause state level actors to raise an eyebrow. A VPN COULD sell out your data to the state but an ISP does it daily. I believe they're legally required to.
   • Embed this notice
     a7 (a7@miss.mouse.services)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 02:00:26 JST a7

     in reply to

     • d

     @RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co @d@clubcyberia.co a vpn doesn’t need a warrant to go ahead and hand over, an isp does it with out a warrant they are likely in some legal hot water, depending on your states laws and regulations of course.

   • Embed this notice
     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 19:08:45 JST 翠星石

     in reply to
     @RustyCrab >despite the fact that tor traffic is evident to your ISP and using it a lot will definitely get you flagged
     If the ISP cares to look, they *will* find out if you're using Tor via traffic analysis no matter how many layers of VPNs you apply.
     
     The problem with VPNs is that you're adding only 1 hop to ??? datacenter, which the glowers can gain access to slightly easier than your typical ISP.
     
     
     If you want to attempt at hiding Tor usage from your ISP, you should use a obfs4 or a snowflake tunnel, as those are designed to resist even the most malicious DPI setups far better than a VPN ever could.
     
     You should really just use Tor without bothering with a VPN, as it's really just a TLS connection and you want to make it apparent to an ISP that plenty of their customers are using Tor and not just a few.
     
     You're already flagged if you use a less, or a non-proprietary version of GNU/Linux and have spoken a single non-NPC sentence in proximity to a listening device, so you should really just seek to gain all the flags and get other people to do the same so such glower database becomes worthless.
     
     Really, you should show your ISP how much you love freedom by hosting a Tor relay, plus all of the other anonymity networks like GNUnet and i2pd.