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    Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:33:05 JST Rusty Crab Rusty Crab
    the more I try to research the topic of computer security on forums, the more I'm realizing that a lot of it reads like intentional government misinfo that people just regurgitate.
    In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:33:05 JST from clubcyberia.co permalink
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      Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:33:02 JST Fediverse Contractor Fediverse Contractor
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      Flagged for what?
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:33:02 JST permalink
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      Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:33:03 JST Rusty Crab Rusty Crab
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      @d a few examples that I commonly see:
      - you should use your ISP raw because we have one case where a sketchy VPN company was used in court in 30 years of their existence despite 80 cases per day of people getting caught because they didn't
      - using a VPN to access tor is dangerous because of <completely incoherent reason>, despite the fact that tor traffic is evident to your ISP and using it a lot will definitely get you flagged
      - hosting your own VPN in a data center is more secure than mixing traffic with others despite you basically owning the computer that the traffic is coming from
      - don't bother using privacy browsers because there's a hypothetical vulnerability somewhere. You might as well just use chrome on windows
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:33:03 JST permalink
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      d (d@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:33:04 JST d d
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      @RustyCrab like what
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:33:04 JST permalink
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      a7 (a7@miss.mouse.services)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:59:00 JST a7 a7
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      @RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co @d@clubcyberia.co vpn with tor is silly because it’s just another company with your name and information on hop n . There’s no real point to it and isp have further privacy protecting regulations generally. Rest of this post sure.

      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:59:00 JST permalink
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      PC-9801 Enjoyer (pawlicker@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:59:03 JST PC-9801 Enjoyer PC-9801 Enjoyer
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      @RustyCrab @d swiftonsecurity.txt
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:59:03 JST permalink
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      Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 02:00:24 JST Sexy Moon Sexy Moon
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      @RustyCrab @d @a7 using tor is pointless if you start it up the second you need it because then the connections can be correlated. run a bridge all the time if you need tor. people have been caught trough correlating tor connections to events.
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 02:00:24 JST permalink
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      Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 02:00:25 JST Rusty Crab Rusty Crab
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      @a7 @d I don't believe the feds or ISPs have any respect for process like that. Almost everybody I've ever known or heard of that got in trouble for internet stuff was doing so on a naked connection.
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 02:00:25 JST permalink
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      Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 02:00:26 JST Rusty Crab Rusty Crab
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      @a7 @d it depends on what you're concerned about. VPN traffic is normal these days. Tor traffic is weird enough that it will cause state level actors to raise an eyebrow. A VPN COULD sell out your data to the state but an ISP does it daily. I believe they're legally required to.
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 02:00:26 JST permalink
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      a7 (a7@miss.mouse.services)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 02:00:26 JST a7 a7
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      @RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co @d@clubcyberia.co a vpn doesn’t need a warrant to go ahead and hand over, an isp does it with out a warrant they are likely in some legal hot water, depending on your states laws and regulations of course.

      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 02:00:26 JST permalink
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 19:08:45 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @RustyCrab >despite the fact that tor traffic is evident to your ISP and using it a lot will definitely get you flagged
      If the ISP cares to look, they *will* find out if you're using Tor via traffic analysis no matter how many layers of VPNs you apply.

      The problem with VPNs is that you're adding only 1 hop to ??? datacenter, which the glowers can gain access to slightly easier than your typical ISP.


      If you want to attempt at hiding Tor usage from your ISP, you should use a obfs4 or a snowflake tunnel, as those are designed to resist even the most malicious DPI setups far better than a VPN ever could.

      You should really just use Tor without bothering with a VPN, as it's really just a TLS connection and you want to make it apparent to an ISP that plenty of their customers are using Tor and not just a few.

      You're already flagged if you use a less, or a non-proprietary version of GNU/Linux and have spoken a single non-NPC sentence in proximity to a listening device, so you should really just seek to gain all the flags and get other people to do the same so such glower database becomes worthless.

      Really, you should show your ISP how much you love freedom by hosting a Tor relay, plus all of the other anonymity networks like GNUnet and i2pd.
      In conversation Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 19:08:45 JST permalink

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