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   Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 06:26:08 JST Tosti ?

   people please stop calling phishing and social engineering "hacking"

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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 06:26:13 JST Tosti ?

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     • SuperDicq

     @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo that still doesn't make it "hacking" tho
     it's not "hack testing" nor does it have anything to do with vulnerabilities

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 06:26:15 JST SuperDicq

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     @tost@mk.toast.cafe Phising and social engineering attacks are often part of red team penetration testing tho.

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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 06:26:17 JST Tosti ?

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     • SuperDicq

     @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyo if we're going by historical meanings, you're off the mark as well
     the etymology refers to "hacking away" at a piece of wood or similar, with a brute tool
     it's anything but playful or clever - it's meant to be monotonous and brutish
     i.e brute focing an auth key would be a hack, or saying "fuck it" and having an O^3 loop where you could have a nicer algorithm

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Sep-2022 06:26:18 JST SuperDicq

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     @tost@mk.toast.cafe I personally don't like the term "hacking" for security exploitation anyway. It used to mean simply "playful cleverness" and anything that was playful and clever on a computer used to be called a hack and it had nothing to do with security specifically.