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    autism :verified: (jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 16:39:56 JST autism :verified: autism :verified:
    wait... it's the year of the linux desktop for real now?
    In conversation Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 16:39:56 JST from federated.fun permalink

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      Avatar of Chaos (mk2boogaloo@freebeerextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 16:39:55 JST Avatar of Chaos Avatar of Chaos
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      @jeff every year is the year of Linux desktop according to people in Youtube.
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 16:39:55 JST permalink
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 16:39:55 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @MK2boogaloo It will never be the year of the "Linux desktop", as Linux is only a kernel and doesn't operate on its own.

      If you insist on trying without adding systemd to make the systemd/Linux OS, it'll just panic() on booting.
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 16:39:55 JST permalink
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 17:45:51 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @MK2boogaloo >there will never be a year of GNU or Free software.
      You say that, but I'm typing this message on a computer running GNU and 100% free software, so it seems 2023 is the year of free software.
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 17:45:51 JST permalink
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      Avatar of Chaos (mk2boogaloo@freebeerextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 17:45:52 JST Avatar of Chaos Avatar of Chaos
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      @Suiseiseki oh but there will never be a year of GNU or Free software.
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 17:45:52 JST permalink
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:09:12 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @MK2boogaloo Where did I mention a lack of proprietary hardware exactly?

      It's pretty obvious that all hardware is inherently proprietary

      I cannot fathom why you would associate me with "Linux", considering how often I note that such kernel is proprietary malware and I would really prefer Hurd, although I do to use GNU Linux-libre as such is a free version of Linux.
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:09:12 JST permalink
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      Avatar of Chaos (mk2boogaloo@freebeerextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:09:13 JST Avatar of Chaos Avatar of Chaos
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      @Suiseiseki no, your hardware is proprietary. Try again, Linux fag.
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:09:13 JST permalink
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      ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:20:00 JST ロミンちゃん ロミンちゃん
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      @p @jeff Ste*m will lead the way most likely with their KDE+*rch shit.
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:20:00 JST permalink
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      pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:20:01 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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      @jeff Imagine thinking that the vendors won't start pushing Cloud Gnome as a broken, shitty version of a thing that nobody asked for and nobody wanted.
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:20:01 JST permalink
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      ExtraSpecialK (extraspecialk@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:41:43 JST ExtraSpecialK ExtraSpecialK
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      @MK2boogaloo
      normies only care about convenience and not having to have a fucking clue what is going on. Two things Linux doesn't do well.
      @Suiseiseki
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:41:43 JST permalink
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      Avatar of Chaos (mk2boogaloo@freebeerextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:43:36 JST Avatar of Chaos Avatar of Chaos
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      @Suiseiseki hence you're not using a truly open source PC. Idk what made you think that you're not a Linuxfag.
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:43:36 JST permalink
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:43:36 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @MK2boogaloo I want to jihad against "open source" infidels myself.

      As for a "open source PC": https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-hardware-designs.en.html
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 18:43:36 JST permalink

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      pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 19:09:08 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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      @romin @jeff Bleak.
      In conversation Saturday, 05-Aug-2023 19:09:08 JST permalink
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Aug-2023 21:22:23 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @Maholmire Yes, part of the proprietary CPU hardware is Read Only Memory, who would have thought?

      Why is it that those who surrender to the most proprietary of software start pointing out proprietary hardware when they run out of proprietary software to point out?
      In conversation Tuesday, 08-Aug-2023 21:22:23 JST permalink
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      Maholmire (maholmire@crlf.ninja)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Aug-2023 21:22:24 JST Maholmire Maholmire
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      You're still running proprietary microcode from memory on your system though.
      In conversation Tuesday, 08-Aug-2023 21:22:24 JST permalink
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      翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Aug-2023 22:31:35 JST 翠星石 翠星石
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      @Maholmire >inconsistencies of their idealogy
      The Free Software Foundation is focused on software, not hardware, as it isn't the Free Hardware Foundation after all, so it is indeed consistent to note that all hardware is inherently proprietary, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea to run proprietary software.

      >is also the proprietary software being run from a hardware manufacturer’s CPU
      I don't follow.

      There's no proprietary *soft*ware running on my CPUs, nor have I loaded up any proprietary microcode software.

      Sure the hardware components that make up the CPU are all proprietary in their own way, but that *hard*ware, not software.

      ROM and RAM buried in a CPU die are not software, even if the ROM happens to contain executable instructions, as nobody can change it after all.

      I would of course prefer to be running GNU/SoC on a fast FGPA programmable in freedom, but that sadly isn't yet feasible.
      In conversation Tuesday, 08-Aug-2023 22:31:35 JST permalink
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      Maholmire (maholmire@crlf.ninja)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Aug-2023 22:31:36 JST Maholmire Maholmire
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      Most Free Software advocates, including the Free Software Foundation themselves, don’t really like it when people point out the inconsistencies of their idealogy. Part of that is also the proprietary software being run from a hardware manufacturer’s CPU. Just because it’s intricately tied to hardware doesn’t mean it should be ignored.

      In conversation Tuesday, 08-Aug-2023 22:31:36 JST permalink

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