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   みさと (misato@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 18-Sep-2022 19:24:48 JST みさと
   Vivaldi is super useful browser............
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Sunday, 18-Sep-2022 23:35:10 JST 寮

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     @Misato It's proprietary spyware however, so be careful.
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     Udon (udon@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Sunday, 18-Sep-2022 23:36:04 JST Udon

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     @Misato
     Chrome is more useful... Every page just werks.
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     みさと (misato@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 00:46:14 JST みさと

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     @udon
     
     Chrome is suck.
     Did you sold your sould for evil?
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     みさと (misato@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 00:46:57 JST みさと

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     @ryo
     
     I knew it but ok....
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     Udon (udon@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 01:28:40 JST Udon

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     @Misato
     Why? Isn't Vivaldi also Chrome? We both sold our evil souls.
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     みさと (misato@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 02:13:22 JST みさと

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     • Udon
     @udon
     
     Wait, you mean Vivaldi is Chrome?
     Isn't Vivaldi secure than Chrome?
     And also I hate Google and I guess vivaldi is good than Chrome.
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     みさと (misato@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 02:18:26 JST みさと

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     • mizuna
     @mizuna
     
     When can I find true of privacy browser.......... :akko_cry:
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     mizuna (mizuna@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 02:18:27 JST mizuna

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     • Udon
     @Misato @udon almost every browser now is just a different skin for chrome
     if you want chrome without the google shit get ungoogled chromium
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     みさと (misato@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 02:19:24 JST みさと

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     • DarkMahesvara
     @DarkMahesvara
     
     I see....thx
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     DarkMahesvara (darkmahesvara@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 02:19:25 JST DarkMahesvara

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     • Udon
     @Misato @udon Vivaldi is based on Chromium just like Chrome (more or less). If you want Chromium browser without Google there really is only Brave and Ungoogled Chromium.
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     Udon (udon@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 02:26:18 JST Udon

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     @Misato @mizuna
     Ungoogled Chromium for Chrome replacement.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 03:15:04 JST 寮

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     • mizuna
     @Misato @mizuna Netsurf is great, but no extensions.
     Dillo is awesome, but no Tor.
     Lynx is the best, but no CSS and no images.
     qutebrowser and LuaKit are the very great, but "MU VIM BINDINGS!! TOO DIFFICULT REEE!!".
     
     LibreWolf with uMatrix, LibRedirect, and uBlock Origin, going over Tor SOCKS proxy is the best bet.
     Many people also recommend Decentraleyes, but dunno, I can't really notice whether it's even working or not.
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     Udon (udon@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 03:54:01 JST Udon

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     • Suzu
     @Suzu @fluffy @Misato
     Isn't Mozilla funded a lot by Google though?
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     Suzu (suzu@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 03:54:02 JST Suzu

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     • Udon
     @fluffy @udon @Misato because people should still be using gecko, so the internet is not completely owned by Google
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     Suzu (suzu@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 03:54:04 JST Suzu

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     • Udon
     @fluffy @udon @Misato basically.
     And anyone who lived in the 90's/early 2000's and saw first hand how the IE monopoly was shit knows this is a bad thing.
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     touch fluffy tail (fluffy@social.handholding.io)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 03:54:04 JST touch fluffy tail

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     • Suzu
     so why even mention gecko
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     touch fluffy tail (fluffy@social.handholding.io)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 03:54:06 JST touch fluffy tail

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     • Suzu
     With firefox at 3% market share, isn't it something like 97% chromium?
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     Suzu (suzu@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 03:54:07 JST Suzu

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     • Udon
     @Misato @udon nowadays there are basically two "engines" that power a browser.
     Chromium, which is a Google project
     Gecko, which is a Mozilla Foundation project
     
     99% of the browsers around use one of these two engines, with the majority running Chromium. Heck, even Microsoft bent over and based the Edge browser in the Chromium engine.
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 10:36:07 JST Terminal Autism

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     • mizuna
     @ryo @Misato @mizuna There's also Nyxt, but it's like Emacs, too difficult ree. It's written in Common Lisp, so I guess it's the most powerful by default, but also may require a higher power level from the user.
     
     Otter Browser is also kinda neat, it's like browsers used to be back in muh day. And Palemoon has licensing issues, but the browser itself is like Firefox used to be and it has no Rust, and it can use GTK2, and that's very good for people that want less GNOME aids in their systems, and unlike GTK3, it doesn't have to be patched to get rid of the IBM Microsoft Red Hat system/dbus dependency.
     
     For browsers without JS, w3m is nice and so is links (and with the -g option it supports images, and can even run in the TTY if compiled with framebuffer support enabled, at least on Linux). Those are my favorites for that purpose.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 10:39:55 JST 寮

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     • mizuna
     @TerminalAutism @Misato @mizuna The problem I have with w3m is, you keep wasting so much time using your arrow keys to reach all the elements you want to "click" on.
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 10:53:10 JST Terminal Autism

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     • mizuna
     @ryo @Misato @mizuna Makes sense. Though there is a way around that.
     https://odysee.com/@gotbletu:b/w3m-links-hinting-mode-(vimium-style):9
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     :sob2: :cunny::lick_left: Yakotarun :cunny::senko_lewd: :sob2: (yakotarun@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 11:31:58 JST :sob2: :cunny::lick_left: Yakotarun :cunny::senko_lewd: :sob2:

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     • mizuna
     @Misato @mizuna librewolf :sagiri_sip:
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     みさと (misato@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 11:39:18 JST みさと

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     @ryo
     
     How about palermoon, preserch?
     And Searx
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 12:05:51 JST 寮

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     @Misato PaleMeme devs are pro-Cuckflare and anti-Tor.
     And Presearch and Searx aren't web browsers.
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     みさと (misato@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 12:37:23 JST みさと

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     @ryo
     
     Is cloudflare dangerous?
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 12:45:42 JST 寮

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     @Misato Yes.
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     みさと (misato@varishangout.net)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 13:04:05 JST みさと

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     @ryo
     
     I see.
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     Udon (udon@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 14:11:38 JST Udon

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     @ryo @Misato
     It's too hard to find perfect developers. Look, Librewolf is using Gitlab so they are also pro-Cuckflare and anti-Tor, and even worse pro-JavaShit.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 14:30:39 JST 寮

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     • Udon
     @udon @Misato Ideally, everyone just creates their own software from scratch.
     And it actually used to be easy to just create your own webbrowser in the 80's and early 90's, but so much bloat these days relies on Chromium-only code, (and previously IE-only code, and before that Netscape/SeaMonkey-only code), it's no longer possible to do that.
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     Udon (udon@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 14:33:42 JST Udon

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     @ryo @Misato
     My ideal browser:
     Full support of XHTML1.1 and CSS 2.1 plus some HTML5 goodies if possible. JavaScript support is optional so as all those WebAssembly, WebRTC, WebGL, whatever.
     
     I think too many devs are focusing on the JavaScript part.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 19-Sep-2022 14:39:58 JST 寮

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     • Udon
     @udon @Misato I agree with the XHTML, CSS, HTML5, and JS parts, though I think that JS should be restricted to just vanilla JS, so none of that ECMA bullshit.
     As for WebRTC, WebGL, and WebASSembly, that's pure bloat that should have never been used in the browser in the first place.
     If you need to play gaymes, play them on the OS directly.
     If you need to run non-browser applications, run them directly on the OS.
     If you need video calling, well there used to be native apps who could do that, but nowadays it's all Electron crap (or Jami that always crashes and never works anyway)...