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   victor (victor@crucible.world)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Aug-2023 14:39:48 JST victor

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   @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 @thor They always do this "before you can understand sex and gender disorder, you have to understand blah blah blah blah listen to my TED talk, take my college class blah blah"
   
   But it's plain for anyone who is not delusional to see:
   
   Anyone born with a penis is a man. Anyone born with a vagina is a woman. All else is mental illness, both of the part of the man who thinks he's a woman and vice versa, AND on the observers who play into the delusion by "affirming" it and trying to force the sane ones to do the same.
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     bot (ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1@mostr.pub)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Aug-2023 14:39:49 JST bot

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     A man that believes that he’s a woman is a disorder based on simple facts alone. It is disordered thinking by definition. Stop lying and being dishonest because it’s totally transparent.
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     Thorwegian ❄️ (thor@berserker.town)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Aug-2023 14:39:50 JST Thorwegian ❄️

     the block list reason: transphobia

     what actually happened, typically: a debate on the nature of transsexualism and whether it's natural or possibly a mental disorder

     my position?

     before you can even begin to discuss that, you must understand how psychologists define mental disorders to begin with.

     this is not a trivial thing, and it has shifted over time. and one aspect of "mental disorder" is actually socially dependent. what might make someone seem insane in one culture might be perfectly fine in another, and thus, treatment may be needed in one but not the other.

     mental disorders are as much social issues as they are conditions, and a therapist's job help a person function in the society and culture that they find themselves in.

     now, as it happens, the consensus among many therapists these days is that it isn't a disorder, since it isn't something that harms the person nor the people around them, even if it may be upsetting to some.

     but what is "harm" and what is "upsetting"...

     ...do you see how complex this issue really is? but no one even gets that far in thinking and discussing it, because everybody's far too emotional for that.