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   Jezza™@threads.com (Official) (jeremiah@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 07:04:11 JST Jezza™@threads.com (Official)

   A browser is like the blind men and the elephant:

   JWZ wandered in the dark until he reached up and touched its rectum. He said, "I think it's a a source of great knowledge, let's expand it to do email and calendaring."

   Brendan Eich ran into its cock face-first and said, "whatever it is, we need to stuff Scheme into it, but since I'm not allowed, fuck you all: meet Javascript."

   Bill Gates reached up and touched its sweaty scrotum and said, "let's rebuild our applications and desktop ui on it."

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 07:04:11 JST Sexy Moon

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     @jeremiah new web using a good language based on typescript but the weird bits removed
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     Jezza™@threads.com (Official) (jeremiah@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 07:08:44 JST Jezza™@threads.com (Official)

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     • Sexy Moon

     @Moon sorta polishing turds / staying on the same road in different ruts.

     I think the browser needs to be "decentralized" back into a document / layout engine, and the media features spun out as standards-compliant extensions.

     As to how we do it, yeah, we need a total rethink.

     Or, fuck the web -- native apps with sockets for stuff. Then "the web" is too hard for 80% of retarded developers and might get a tiny bit better.

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 07:08:44 JST Sexy Moon

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     @jeremiah the web was democratizing because it was easy to use and forgiving.
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     Jezza™@threads.com (Official) (jeremiah@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 07:10:32 JST Jezza™@threads.com (Official)

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     • Sexy Moon

     @Moon did you ever have a chance to play with Hypercard?

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 07:10:32 JST Sexy Moon

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     @jeremiah no. I wish someone would make a workalike in the browser or something.
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     Jezza™@threads.com (Official) (jeremiah@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 07:10:33 JST Jezza™@threads.com (Official)

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     • Sexy Moon

     @Moon a mixed blessing.

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     Jezza™@threads.com (Official) (jeremiah@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 07:17:22 JST Jezza™@threads.com (Official)

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     • Sexy Moon

     @Moon cheers, mate:
     https://hypercardadventures.com/

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     Jezza™@threads.com (Official) (jeremiah@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 07:27:14 JST Jezza™@threads.com (Official)

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     • Sexy Moon

     @Moon the point i'd draw your attention to that may not be obvious in a cursory survey is the read/write nature of thing that, btw, was part of the original www concept.

     I propose the Self programming language as an intellectual model for a "neo web" (as opposed to post-web): an extensible VM with an extensible UI. The code of any aspect of the system can be rewritten while it is running.

     If you're gonna be bored on a plane or something, check out https://selflanguage.org/ .

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 07:27:52 JST Sexy Moon

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     @jeremiah thanks. I'm not wedded to javascript/typescript, in this theoretical reimagining I would like to see options