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   lantrix (lantrix@the.usualsuspects.lol)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:45 JST lantrix

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   @malakai wjere did you copy the server rules from? Is the instance actually based in Germany?
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:20 JST Sexy Moon

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     @meso @dcc @dushman @lantrix @lonelyowl @malakai If you commit violent crime or mess with drugs in China, there's no George Soros district attorney to drop charges or George Soros bail posting org getting you out. The police don't have obstructions to collecting evidence and a judge won't throw it out. The media won't come to your defense. The average person will say you belong in prison. You will be caught, and you will go to jail.
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     @dushman @meso @malakai @lonelyowl @lantrix Culture problems*
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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:21 JST meso

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     @dcc @dushman @lantrix @lonelyowl @malakai yeah pal sure its a culture problem that you have 10 times the prisoners per capita than China, despite having several times less people than them. it's an issue with your legal system, with your government, with your society. Total American death. Release the poor people from the prisons!
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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:22 JST Dushman

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     @dcc@annihilation.social @meso@the.asbestos.cafe @malakai@the.usualsuspects.lol @lonelyowl@the.usualsuspects.lol @lantrix@the.usualsuspects.lol
     It might be a sign of an issue if your government arrests more people than fucking China

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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:23 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @dushman @meso @malakai @lonelyowl @lantrix So no one should be arrestd and criminals should be released?
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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:24 JST Dushman

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     @dcc@annihilation.social @meso@the.asbestos.cafe @lantrix@the.usualsuspects.lol @lonelyowl@the.usualsuspects.lol @malakai@the.usualsuspects.lol
     land of the "free"

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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:25 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @meso @lantrix @lonelyowl @malakai Did i say this? meso the eu is not good for "privacy and piracy" is all the same bs (but we have free speech here) Deflection does not work.
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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:25 JST Dushman

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     @dcc@annihilation.social @meso@the.asbestos.cafe @lantrix@the.usualsuspects.lol @lonelyowl@the.usualsuspects.lol @malakai@the.usualsuspects.lol @meso@the.asbestos.cafe but we have free speech hereYeah no if you say something the government really does not like they will epstein you

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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:26 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @meso @lantrix @lonelyowl @malakai The second part is not what were talking about, also in places like gemany all sorts of shit can get your instance taken down. You bite bullets for no reason
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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:26 JST meso

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     @dcc @lantrix @lonelyowl @malakai not hosting nazis isn't biting a bullet, it's just a nice thing to do. Europe is simply a safer place for normal people and for people who enjoy privacy and piracy. the US is a shithole in those two areas
     
     though Germany and France are in the 14 eyes. Still would trust them more than the US, the home of the NSA and the root of all evil :bcp:
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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:28 JST meso

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     @dcc @lantrix @lonelyowl @malakai no one's gonna take down your instance cuz someone federated a swastika, it's not actually that strict. you just shouldn't be flamboyantly advocating for that shit (which is the normal thing to do)
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:29 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @meso @lantrix @lonelyowl @malakai Shit shows up on the public tl all the time, not even having some sort of freedom is tarded.
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     @meso @lantrix @lonelyowl @malakai >Get your instance taken down because of the friendship windmill
     Come on meso
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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:30 JST meso

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     @dcc @lantrix @lonelyowl @malakai I don't care, I just won't post nazi symbols. having stronger privacy laws as well as being able to pirate without caring is way more important to me than posting the symbol of a failed retard ideology
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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:31 JST meso

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     @malakai @lantrix @lonelyowl it is not, go with France or Germany or Switzerland. it is absolutely not the most free, it is also highly overpriced.
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     The Usual Suspect (malakai@the.usualsuspects.lol)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:32 JST The Usual Suspect

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     Yeah, the hosting situation isn’t good. So basically, US is still the most “free” when it comes to good hosting options

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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:33 JST meso

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     @malakai @lantrix @lonelyowl piracy, other stuff I assume
     
     and no, unfortunately
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     The Usual Suspect (malakai@the.usualsuspects.lol)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:34 JST The Usual Suspect

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     That’s good to know. What does Bulgaria allow that US doesn’t?

     Are there many low-cost, reliable VPS companies in Bulgaria?

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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:35 JST meso

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     @malakai @lantrix @lonelyowl LOL no US isn't the least restrictive country, far from it. Bulgaria is where it's at
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     The Usual Suspect (malakai@the.usualsuspects.lol)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:36 JST The Usual Suspect

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     Yeah, USA seems to be the least restrictive country. I think only CP, willful slander, and calling for violence can get you in real trouble. Even for slander and hate speech, someone has to successfully sue you in a US court.

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     Owl 🦉 (lonelyowl@the.usualsuspects.lol)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:37 JST Owl 🦉

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     Which is the less restrictive country in terms of online freedom?
     United states?
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     lantrix (lantrix@the.usualsuspects.lol)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:43 JST lantrix

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     Just wondering. I put my instance in Canada, and have no rules listed.
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     The Usual Suspect (malakai@the.usualsuspects.lol)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:39:44 JST The Usual Suspect

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     @lantrix I picked and chose individual rules from a bunch of servers, it’s not from a single source.

     Yes, the instance is actually in Germany, why?

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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:41:11 JST meso

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     @Moon @dcc @dushman @lantrix @lonelyowl @malakai they have 1.2 billion people, america has 320 million. America has slightly more total incarcerations
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:41:11 JST Sexy Moon

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     @meso @dcc @dushman @lantrix @lonelyowl @malakai China has effective deterrence. America has tough punishments but people don't think they'll get caught.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:43:22 JST Sexy Moon

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     @dushman @meso @dcc @malakai @lonelyowl @lantrix what happens to drug offenders in China, are they let go?
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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:43:23 JST Dushman

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     @Moon@shitposter.club @meso@the.asbestos.cafe @dcc@annihilation.social @lantrix@the.usualsuspects.lol @lonelyowl@the.usualsuspects.lol @malakai@the.usualsuspects.lol
     It's not that, it's the shitty legal system in the US.

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:44:13 JST Sexy Moon

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     @dushman @meso @dcc @malakai @lonelyowl @lantrix private prisons are a small percentage of total prisons.
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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:44:14 JST Dushman

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     Pic related. It's all businesses, for profit private prisons create such pathological situations.

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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:45:32 JST meso

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     @Moon @dcc @dushman @lantrix @lonelyowl @malakai China is a totalitarian police state, there's almost no freedom there. but the US has a serious mass incarceration problem
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:45:32 JST Sexy Moon

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     @meso @dcc @dushman @lantrix @lonelyowl @malakai of course it does.
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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:45:33 JST meso

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     @Moon @dcc @dushman @lantrix @lonelyowl @malakai its not about that, its more that china has several times more people yet far fewer incarcerations. same with india, or any other country really
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:46:47 JST Sexy Moon

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     @meso @dcc @dushman @lantrix @lonelyowl @malakai I just don't get why you guys don't think deterrence isn't a huge factor in an authoritarian panopticon
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     meso (meso@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:46:48 JST meso

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     @dushman @Moon @dcc @malakai @lonelyowl @lantrix yeah, that is NOT normal.
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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:46:49 JST Dushman

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     @meso@the.asbestos.cafe @Moon@shitposter.club @dcc@annihilation.social @lantrix@the.usualsuspects.lol @lonelyowl@the.usualsuspects.lol @malakai@the.usualsuspects.lol
     China even has less total prisoners. Not only less per capita. All this while America has 3 times less people.

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:50:36 JST Sexy Moon

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     @dushman @meso @dcc @malakai @lonelyowl @lantrix Americans are trained from birth to be selfish and stupid and impulsive.
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     Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 21:50:37 JST Dushman

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     @Moon@shitposter.club @meso@the.asbestos.cafe @dcc@annihilation.social @lantrix@the.usualsuspects.lol @lonelyowl@the.usualsuspects.lol @malakai@the.usualsuspects.lol
     Well how about India? Huge population and they still have less prisoners than the US. That one isn't a police state like China.

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 22:00:07 JST feld

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     no risk no reward!
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 22:11:01 JST Sexy Moon

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     @malakai @dcc @dushman @meso @lantrix @lonelyowl did I bring it back to life, I'm sorry. I'm done anyway
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     Stop this thread

     That ship has sailed

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     Owl 🦉 (lonelyowl@the.usualsuspects.lol)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 22:11:03 JST Owl 🦉

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     US are shit, china is also shit. Stop this thread, it's silly.
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     @meso@the.asbestos.cafe @Moon@shitposter.club @dcc@annihilation.social @lantrix@the.usualsuspects.lol @lonelyowl@the.usualsuspects.lol @malakai@the.usualsuspects.lol
     There's no freedom in the US either. It's all propaganda meant to make the populous content with the bullshit.

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     @Moon @dcc @dushman @meso @lantrix @lonelyowl @malakai wake me up (wake me up inside) i can't wake up (wake me up inside)
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 22:20:23 JST Sexy Moon

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     @raccoon @dushman @meso @dcc @malakai @lonelyowl @lantrix I am just saying that there are a lot of reasons we have a super high incarceration rate in addition to aggressive policing/sentencing
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     Trash Panda (raccoon@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 22:20:24 JST Trash Panda

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     @Moon@shitposter.club @meso@the.asbestos.cafe @dcc@annihilation.social @dushman@den.raccoon.quest @lantrix@the.usualsuspects.lol @lonelyowl@the.usualsuspects.lol @malakai@the.usualsuspects.lol Yeah this souldn't be a "This is worse or less bad than that".
     Both are bad for different reasons and focusing on which is worse won't be useful in a constructive conversation imo.
     "Yeah sure I killed a person but look at Timmy, he killed 2!" "Uh, akshully Timmy killed two because the other was for this reason so it's ok"
     They're both bad situations for different reasons. And yes, Europe is not perfect and has it's own issues.
     Now to focus back on the original topic: No, criminals shouldn't be let go free. Criminals should absolutely be put in prison and I am not even in favor of a system where you can pay X to stay out of prison because that only makes jail like a good excuse to take money from people, sometimes innocent ones.
     I'm sure it happened a lot that people got assuced falsely and had to pay to stay free, which wouldn't have happened if one didn't have such option (pay to stay out). This also creates further disadvantage between rich and poor people btw.
     However, forced labor also only gives makes jail time seem interesting because you get to legally use slave work.
     With all this said I also wanna point out I am no expert and what I said might be based off of misunderstanding of the american law so please if that's the case bear with me and tell me where I'm wrong.