Turns out that Meta/Facebook have a trademark for “X” for, among other things, social media websites https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87980831&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
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Thomas 🔭✨ (thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 06:26:39 JST Thomas 🔭✨
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Thomas 🔭✨ (thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 06:31:54 JST Thomas 🔭✨
@adhdmarie @iamdavidobrien You can’t trademark just the letter X, that’s why they trademarked that specific X logo.
If they’re not using it in commerce the trademark may be worthless, but we shall see what happens.
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Marie M. (adhdmarie@mastodon.ie)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 06:31:56 JST Marie M.
Different design, mind you. Wonder what they had in mind for it?
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Marie M. (adhdmarie@mastodon.ie)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 06:31:58 JST Marie M.
@iamdavidobrien FYI!
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Thomas 🔭✨ (thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 06:34:03 JST Thomas 🔭✨
@rcpierce they won’t let you trademark just the character “X”, it’s too unspecific
I think it more important if Meta actually used “X” in commerce before today. If so, they might have a case. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Pierce ⚖️ 🇺🇸 🌵 (rcpierce@mastodon.online)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 06:34:04 JST Pierce ⚖️ 🇺🇸 🌵
@thomasfuchs Yes, but it's not a standard character mark, so I think it is literally just a trademark for this specific visual depiction of X, not X itself. I could be wrong, but that's my thought.
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Pierce ⚖️ 🇺🇸 🌵 (rcpierce@mastodon.online)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 07:53:32 JST Pierce ⚖️ 🇺🇸 🌵
@thomasfuchs Here's one for just the letter X, unstylized. It's "X" for humidors. https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=90169416&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
And the Meta "X" mark was listed as currently being in use. We'll see if anything comes of it.
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Thomas 🔭✨ (thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 07:53:32 JST Thomas 🔭✨
@rcpierce Fascinating, I stand corrected!
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Thomas 🔭✨ (thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 10:17:09 JST Thomas 🔭✨
@adhdmarie @iamdavidobrien Correction, turns out you can trademark just the letter X (there's e.g. such a trademark for a Humidor).
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Thomas 🔭✨ (thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 10:20:15 JST Thomas 🔭✨
@iatendril @adhdmarie @iamdavidobrien No, there's character marks that do not lay a claim to a particular style, font or color.
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𝟙𝔸 (iatendril@snug.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 10:20:17 JST 𝟙𝔸
@thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io @adhdmarie@mastodon.ie @iamdavidobrien@mastodon.social The particular graphic is trademarked. You can't trademark the word "X".
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Thomas 🔭✨ (thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 10:25:27 JST Thomas 🔭✨
@iatendril @adhdmarie @iamdavidobrien yeah, that’s true. Otoh they have good lawyers…
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𝟙𝔸 (iatendril@snug.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 10:25:29 JST 𝟙𝔸
@thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io @adhdmarie@mastodon.ie @iamdavidobrien@mastodon.social That's mostly about political game, and how much money a company can bring the government. For example, "Apple".
Also, I don't think the "X" from Facebook is in active use, so it has a weaker claim being trademark.
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Thomas 🔭✨ (thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 10:27:42 JST Thomas 🔭✨
@iatendril @adhdmarie @iamdavidobrien well those lawyers might know who to bribe so
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𝟙𝔸 (iatendril@snug.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 10:27:43 JST 𝟙𝔸
@thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io @adhdmarie@mastodon.ie @iamdavidobrien@mastodon.social good lawyers can't help you win a obviously stupid claim but bribery can
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Thomas 🔭✨ (thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 06:00:36 JST Thomas 🔭✨
@nip fwiw the company is referred to in writing as “X”
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Nobody In Particular (nip@techhub.social)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Jul-2023 06:00:37 JST Nobody In Particular
@thomasfuchs
However, that trademark is specified as
"The mark consists of a stylized letter "X". The left side of the "X" is white and the right side of the "X" is blue"
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"The color(s) white and blue is/are claimed as a feature of the mark."
On the other hand, Elongated Muskrat just picked the standard Unicode letter 1D54F, described as "Mathematical double-struck capital X"
It'll be hard to argue that those are the same.In conversation permalink
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