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    Abolisyonista (abolisyonista@ni.hil.ist)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 21:21:12 JST Abolisyonista Abolisyonista

    Americanos are pissed that they can't have bananas year round if #degrowth/ #communism/ #anarchy happens. Banana availability has its roots in imperialism, destructive monocropping, and grueling agricultural labor/slavery.

    We literally have a word for client states of #imperialism for the export of bananas: banana republic. Banana imports to the West is drenched in the blood of thousands massacred for your God damn commodities. In the #Philippines, companies told this instruction to banana worker syndicalists: “turn them into fertilizers for the bananas.”

    On top of that is the steep ecological and carbon costs to actually shipping the damn things. Do you really need bananas year round?

    There's also the problem of monocropping which destroys the biodiversity of forests to make way for plantations, even if we discount the slave labor. Monocropping has made Cavendish plantations at high risk of diseases. It could very well be that Cavendishes would become an endangered species just like the Gros Michel after nature erases its scourge. Maybe the extinction of the Cavendish is already a matter of time, rendering banana disocorse moot.

    Americanos just don't understand that in a liberated world, maybe people won't be breaking their backs for some Americano to get their god damn banana. Of course degrowth/communism/anarchism means that relations to luxuries will change.

    Besides, Cavendishes suck. They literally taste terrible. Y'all seriously live like this? Lakatan and Sabah tastes way better. Yeah, they can't be exported, boohoo. Not everything has to be a commodity, much less to please some Americano half a world away.

    In conversation Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 21:21:12 JST from ni.hil.ist permalink
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      Secret 3rd South African (monsoonrains@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 21:45:54 JST Secret 3rd South African Secret 3rd South African
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      @abolisyonista All of that horror and I never even thought bananas were that great...

      In conversation Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 21:45:54 JST permalink
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      Magical Cat (koteisaev@mastodon.online)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 21:59:01 JST Magical Cat Magical Cat
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      @abolisyonista communism is not anarchy. Communism is Gulag for everyone and deficit of everything for everyone, except of a small priviledged nomenclature (state bureauroctats) and government "security services" aka secret police.
      You can't convince a lot of people into degrowth. All what possible is to join rare-likeminded group and try to live degrowth-ed life in practice ("be the example of what you offer"). There is no other way.

      In conversation Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 21:59:01 JST permalink
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      mooncake (mooncake@ni.hil.ist)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 23:49:45 JST mooncake mooncake
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      @abolisyonista I saw a TikTok featuring an Asian chef extolling the virtues of the Thai banana and have seen similar videos for the ice cream banana and I’m like look i enjoy the food influencers myself but this would also! disappear and should disappear, there’s no Diaspora Food-Identity Branding that makes the banana export defensible aaaaaahh

      In conversation Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 23:49:45 JST permalink
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      George Laskowsky (glaskows@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 07:04:45 JST George Laskowsky George Laskowsky
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      @abolisyonista By Americanos you mean USA citizens? north americans (including Mexico and Canada)? or citizens from the whole continent?

      In conversation Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 07:04:45 JST permalink

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