@dushman How exactly does Linux-libre stop your OS from booting?
It's just Linux with patches to remove the proprietary malware and disable proprietary malware loading machinery - the core functionality, which includes init, remains unchanged.
I only run Linux-libre, as I like my OS to have freedom.
I've tried Trisquel on the most proprietary of computers and it works fine.
Installing proprietary software in the form of microcode is the pinnacle of stupidity.
I don't have any problems with installing free microcode updates, but it seems that Intel and AMD only supply proprietary ones without even a changelog.
@dushman >It's gonna be preloaded anyways so you might as well get them for they fixes they provide I have sadly concluded that all hardware is proprietary, so I don't see any difference between instructions in ROM and a circuit - all I focus on is if that circuit it malicious.
>If you want something 100% free then make a Risc V rig lel. Yes, I have concluded a free hardware design of a RISC-V implementation, running on a fast FGPA that can be programmed with only free software is the only way forwards, but that's sadly not feasible yet.
>You will still have proprietary code running even if you don't install it yourself on any AMD64 machine. Obviously, but I don't see any proprietary software licenses to agree to for such software.
@meso >that's glowie bullshit. they dont actually provide fixes, just spyware Indeed, I have the suspicion that intel doesn't risk putting backdoors into the hardware microcode, as someone is going to eventually decap the die and cut it layer by layer and read the contents of the microcode.
If I was intel, I would intentionally make the hardware microcode unstable and then release a encrypted, ultra-obfuscated, undocumented instruction set proprietary microcode update with a fix for the stability "issue" and all of the backdoors.
What else would explain the proprietary software license on the microcode updates that forbid reverse engineering?
@meso@dushman I don't even think those security vulnerabilities are even the backdoor part, Intel is just that incompetent and cuts that many corners to "win" benchmarks.
The updates seem to be mostly crappy workarounds that don't actually fix the problem, as I believe it's kind of impossible to fix a hardware problem with speculative execution without disabling speculative execution entirely, which would reduce performance by like 80%.
The NSA still loves to use any available vulnerabilities regardless if they were a backdoor or not.
@Suiseiseki@dushman >If I was intel, I would intentionally make the hardware microcode unstable and then release a encrypted, ultra-obfuscated, undocumented instruction set proprietary microcode update with a fix for the stability "issue" and all of the backdoors.
I agree, this is probably what's happening. Intel has so many security vulnerabilities, so often. they are probably planned and microcode is used to make an official "fix" while the NSA can use both the backdoors in the microcode and the "vulnerability" backdoors
@Suiseiseki@dushman AMD is a little more benevolent and less compromised by glowies, or at least was. probably because smaller marketshare therefore less of an incentive to backdoor it and all
@meso@dushman AMD now glows even brighter than Intel sadly.
The Opteron 62XX series seems to be the last line of CPUs they released that don't glow as bright as the sun, as they don't seem to have a PSP and those CPUs are stable enough for server use without microcode updates.
@Suiseiseki@dushman I went through a securitard phase, I guess dushman is going through it with chromium and microcode. in the end you realize it doesn't matter that much especially considering a lot of those "security" schizos seem to materialize out of thin air and talk about how you should use corporate and proprietary software and start using psyopesque reasoning on why free software is akschually le full of malware.
@dushman@meso If I remember correctly, some parabola live images don't seem to boot on any computer for some reason (since Arch), but that memory may be invented.