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You don't know how many times I've pulled this. The responses are always ludicrous.
The truth is that the athiest movement tends to be a political movement, not a theological movement. So because the jews tend to agree with their political positions, while Christians do not, they'll not only never go after jews, they'll even defend them against any attack.
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No. I haven't. Penn is obnoxious. I wish he would shut the fuck up like his side kick. 🙄
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@Humpleupagus @DireGoy You ever see that wife swap episode where Penn Jillete was being an insufferable atheist dick to some jewish lesbian?
It was pretty funny. He's having to pay for it now though.
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@Humpleupagus @Deplorable_Degenerate @DireGoy The only thing I remember about him is how he lost weight, and then his neck ended up looking kinda like a vagina.
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@Humpleupagus @DireGoy As with most social issues, there are the two main dynamics at play.
The first is that they (and by they I basically mean anyone who grew up in the US, and west in general) learned to "punch up", which really means that they never learned to not be a bigot, but who you are not allowed to be a bigot against. You are not allowed to make fun of or attack Blacks on the basis of race, but Whites are fair game. It's okay to attack Christians, but not okay to attack Jews.
The other thing they learned is that it's a virtue to deconstruct social norms. Christianity is a social norm in the US, so it's fair to attack, but Judaism isn't fair since it isn't the norm.
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Like I said, it's political, as your reply admits.
And Judaism is a norm. The holocaust is the preeminent foundational myth of the post WWII west, and jews are deeply entrenched in media, banking, government, and education. So at claim that it isn't a norm is the type of ludicrous, jew defending excuse I was speaking about.
Tl;dr Your reply admits and demonstrates both of my points.
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@Humpleupagus @DireGoy I wasn't entirely disagreeing with you, past the political part. It's perhaps political in function, but I don't think it's an overtly political act. People's feelings have been hijacked, for lack of better words. The moment they come up against some rule, they start doing a check list. "Can I think of a good reason for this rule? Does this rule hurt someone specifically? Does this rule protect someone that's not me?" If none of those pass, then the rule gets attacked from all sides.
Looking at normie politics, this is how, both a left and a right, look at gay marriage. Liberals say "love is love", it's a compassion thing. For conservatives it's "I personally don't like it, but I also don't want anyone telling me what to do, so I won't tell them what to do". Both have basically same outcome of bringing down social norms. They also do this automatically, almost without thinking. It's not in a political in this sense, but literally a virtue. The same way you might say stealing is wrong. Basically, it is itself a social norm.
I get where this comes from on the Jewish part. It's not a product of the people themselves (no one would ever willingly do this to themselves), but from outsiders detached from the well being of society as a whole. Jews may very well control the culture, to the point where we may as well say the dominant culture is Jewish, but it's also obscured to the point where most people don't realize this. They should, but they don't.
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