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alpaca.gold
Small instance administered by a data scientist/Silicon Valley techbro.
Admin publicly signified that personal data collected through federation with alpaca.gold is retained forever, usable in whatever manner he pleases, shrugged off any potential ethical/legal implications around PII and processing consent wrt EU citizens.
‼️ Please read the full thread below for context; research yourself, then act if appropriate for your community.
Woozle Hypertwin
@zkat @GrouchyHydra Since he hasn't actually built anything yet and is just discussing it, I'll remove the block.
Some context:
This has always been a contentious area -- the fact that public posts technically can be aggregated without anyone's consent or federation has never stopped people from being upset at anyone who does so, openly/transparently or not. This is especially true for search.
There are good reasons to be upset about how it might be abused, but I also think it's a mistake to think we can stop it by just defederating from anyone who does it.
There are also good reasons to think that a lot of the fears stem from abuses of these sorts of tools on less-well-moderated sites and instances. It's my view that tool-abuse is best dealt with through moderation, rather than by refusing to allow the tool.
We need to, basically, do our own EEE on these kinds of uses: flood out abusive uses with responsible & transparent ones.
...and we need to start by discussing what kinds of uses are reasonable.
cc: @news @osslate @idlestate
Kat Marchán 🐈
@woozle @GrouchyHydra see thread here: https://alpaca.gold/@seldo/110661913783868042
Kat Marchán 🐈
@woozle @GrouchyHydra @news can I interject to add why we’re fediblocking based on an internet disagreement with someone who has clearly communicated has no intention of implementing this GDPR violation? Does having bad armchair opinions on tech really count here?
Woozle Hypertwin
@zkat Unironic: please, do give me more information about this. My policy is to act quickly and research later; all hasty decisions are subject to change or reversal as new information comes in. 💚
Woozle Hypertwin
@GrouchyHydra Done.
cc: @news
GrouchyHydra
@osslate @woozle don't suppose you could protect my rights as an EU citizen and defederate this instance? GDPR makes that kind of shit HIGHLY ILLEGAL.
Woozle Hypertwin
@idlestate It was a suspend -- if there are irreversible effects, I should probably understand that better. (We rarely end up wanting to reverse full instance suspensions).
rellik moo
So this temporary, now-reversed block: Was it a silence, or a suspend?
Because the latter has effects that are not all that reversible.
A lot of pixels have been spilled about the sudden stux defed from .art and how many follows that broke, as a big and recent example.
I like the .art model--be quick to silence and, if warranted, to unsilence. Suspends need at least a little warning in all but the most egregious cases.
rellik moo
(I'm trying to ask this in the spirit of having those discussions, and to avoid any sense of recrimination.)
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