So, a week ago Meta was contacting Mastodon admins to give them a "heads up" they were going to launch soon, and that it could impact the Fediverse. Then this morning before launch, they announced they were in fact not launching with ActivityPub federation. I bet it took extra effort to disable support for it. They did a bait-and-switch; a slap in the face.
Without federation, it's an inferior Twitter clone. I am disappointed in the many people signing up for it.
However, I don't believe it will last. Centralized social media is not sustainable.
@32e1827635450ebb3c5a7d12c1f8e7b2b514439ac10a67eef3d9fd9c5c68e245 Exactly! I thought they were trying to compete with Mastodon. But apparently they're just trying to compete with Twitter. How is that viable? I can't believe it's actually somewhat viable. 🐑 🐑 🐑
@alex How many of the accounts are bots? Or, how many will even be active in a month? Facebook and Instagram do have the power to funnel a lot of people onto that service, but will they stay? Will they engage?
Outside of our niche I think users don’t care about this yet but social media companies are aware of it. My only immediate inclination is to compare it to Bluesky which sets the bar very low. I see no reason to suspect Bluesky will federate before Threads does. I’m actually beginning to get extremely doubtful of ATPro’s role in the future of federation but curious about your thoughts on that as someone who understands it far better than I do on a technical level
@ryan ATProto is kind of like a centralized platform anyone can develop plugins for. It's not decentralized in the same way, and not in the ways that matter to me.
@alex >Centralized social media is not sustainable.
I am curious as to what sense you mean... Like it cannot sustain itself as a free, unbiased place for sharing ideas, or perhaps that the era of large social media platforms like Facebook, Twitter, etc., itself will come to an end to be replaced by the Fediverse or something like it?
@Monarque The biggest asset of a social network is its users. With decentralized protocols, new ideas can come to light that tap into the existing userbase. You can build a new social platform and instantly get millions of users for free. It is inevitable that this model wins.
Centralized platforms can never meet the needs of all of its users. It will alienate its users. This is also inevitable, and it happens time and time again. Those users will seek alternatives. And eventually all those alternatives will be decentralized.
@alex It's a good prediction and I would like to say that it seems also inevitable that people will seek out the alternatives to avoid censorship... Censorship of all kinds, whether being done by woke Europe, Communist China, Hindutva India, Islamist Afghanistan, CIA-sponsored "liberal democracy" Brazil...
We'll all be driven to free speech zones eventually, and people will join them because they're the only principled places worth respecting.
I’m sure they saw how effective the censorship is on fedi and how free speech is easily quarantined and decided this is exactly what they’re looking for. Not only that but ppl will pay to run the instances and janny them for free.