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   feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 06:46:10 JST feld
   Google Says It'll Scrape Everything You Post Online for AI
   
   https://gizmodo.com/google-says-itll-scrape-everything-you-post-online-for-1850601486
   
   
   We're going to have to learn that making our data public means it's no longer in our control. It's just the natural order of things
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     Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 06:47:51 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

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     @feld Solution: hide everything behind authentication.
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 06:54:24 JST feld

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     • Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:
     I wouldn't be surprised if Twitter really did have an issue with aggressive datamining by OpenAI, Google, Microsoft, etc and people getting training data for their own private LLMs
     
     This will happen to instances on the Fediverse too. I dread my timelines being full of whinging about it though
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 12:17:49 JST feld

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     • CMDR Yojimbosan UTC+(12|13)
     > and there will be a netsplit based on whether your instance allows data to be "public/unauthenticated" (our current default) or "to privacy-preserving instances only"
     
     except anyone can just modify their code to not obey and this mechanism will fail
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     CMDR Yojimbosan UTC+(12|13) (yojimbo@hackers.town)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 12:17:50 JST CMDR Yojimbosan UTC+(12|13)

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     @feld We will end up with a machine-readable contract for sharing data between fediverse nodes (i.e. server-to-server capabilities negotiation) and there will be a netsplit based on whether your instance allows data to be "public/unauthenticated" (our current default) or "to privacy-preserving instances only"

     I think I'd like this to happen, some people will benefit from it.

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 12:22:00 JST feld

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     • CMDR Yojimbosan UTC+(12|13)
     seems like we don't need to waste the man-hours on programming an overly complicated mechanism that can be so easily defeated then
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     CMDR Yojimbosan UTC+(12|13) (yojimbo@hackers.town)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 12:22:01 JST CMDR Yojimbosan UTC+(12|13)

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     @feld Absolutely. Once there is a reasonable suspicion that the contract (social, technical, whatever) has been broken, defederation happens.