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   feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 04:39:07 JST feld

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   I maintain that WebKit is the best engine; bleeding edge features are not a requirement for it to be the best
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 04:39:10 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     > WebKit ain't exactly hot or works well outside of walled garden of Apple ecosystem
     
     Works well enough to have been a daily driver for me for the past 3+ years, in fact websites these days probably work worse on firefox given how much it's user share plummeted into irrelevance.
     And "hot" has nothing to do with being technically good but everything to do with marketing, which is often a tool to make something worse look better than the rest.
     
     > Would not hypothetical tailor-made native application achieve that specialized use case that does not involve chasing Google at this point?
     
     WebApps should be ran into a dedicated browser anyway, this way you can control updates or even deploy your own fork without caring about the remote server. Haven't used it but https://github.com/sonnyp/Tangram might be going in that kind of direction.
     
     > There is some hope that Flow browser is not vapourware
     
     I forgot it was even a thing, I care once there is running code.
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     @lanodan WebKit ain't exactly hot or works well outside of walled garden of Apple ecosystem
     
     > specially for some devices / use-cases where all the desktop bullshit doesn't matters
     
     Would not hypothetical tailor-made native application achieve that specialized use case that does not involve chasing Google at this point?
     
     There is some hope that Flow browser is not vapourware
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 04:39:12 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @Skoll3 WebKit exists, it's just that nobody does marketing about it except Apple via Safari even in it's embedded devices space (it's either a chromium fork or webkit anyway, chromium being a pain to maintain since you'll probably be forced to do your own fork).
     
     And I'd say it's still possible to write another web engine, specially for some devices / use-cases where all the desktop bullshit doesn't matters, but you need to have a team, great leadership and time.
     Team and leadership that you're going to need for a chromium fork btw, if it's too few devs they're going to burn out because there is 0 fun in chasing after Google's whims and you're going to have some deal breakers.
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     @lanodan In light of no legit alternatives in web space in due how massive endavour it would be to develop fully endemic engine
     
     I wished Mozilla was not run by morrons
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 04:39:15 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     Honestly given all the various stuff Mozilla did and didn't… if you think they fight for the open web, you fell for pure marketing.