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   Kiara (hyenagirl64@yiff.life)'s status on Monday, 03-Jul-2023 15:03:14 JST Kiara

   My lesson learned from the kolektiva raid is that you probably shouldn’t make a major server that is filled with politically active leftists.

   Like, the beauty of mastodon for political organizing imo is that there isn’t one central database that can be seized. By the time the *database* encryption becomes important as a line of defense, you’ve already become a target.

   I’ll also point out: the individual in question had an unencrypted copy of the db? Admins can get unencrypted copies? So what happens if an admin decides ti work with the police?

   This isn’t just bad luck. It’s putting all your eggs in one basket. If kolektiva had been 4 servers instead of one this would be a quarter as serious.

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     Kiara (hyenagirl64@yiff.life)'s status on Monday, 03-Jul-2023 15:03:12 JST Kiara

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     Another lesson: if you are the admin of a politically active server, it’s really important that the cops don’t show up at your house specifically. The moment you take on that role, and the server gets big enough, you should probably sit out on any kind of risky activities and keep your nose clean. Because if you get in trouble, so might a bunch of other people who are trusting you to keep them safe.

     You’re a high value target. It’s in everyone’s interests that you keep yourself safe and incognito. Your arrest could be their arrest. Your raid is their raid.

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     Kiara (hyenagirl64@yiff.life)'s status on Monday, 03-Jul-2023 15:03:13 JST Kiara

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     Another lesson that I already knew but I guess people don’t think about: your private communications with other servers aren’t private. The admins of those servers can always see them. If you want dms to be private you will need to encrypt them yourself manually. Unless there is some plug-in I don’t know about.

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     MuffInTarnation (riotmuffin@ni.hil.ist)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 03:06:29 JST MuffInTarnation

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     @hyenagirl64 are you saying that nobody who admins a political project online should partake in any other political activity?

     And you realize that, regardless of the answer to that, we could both sit down and come up with a long list of things that have resulted in police raids that are neither political nor risky, right?

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     Kiara (hyenagirl64@yiff.life)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 03:06:50 JST Kiara

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     @riotmuffin no, I'm not saying all admins should avoid political activity. But kolektiva in particular had a LOT of organizing going on through it, and a LOT of people on it who might have been engaging in activity that could now get them in trouble. If the admin of a friends circle instance got raided for protest activities and only a couple people on there were doing organizing it wouldn't matter as much.

     I'm not saying the admin could have prevented getting raided per se... just being an admin is sufficient for them to make up a bullshit reason and maybe that is part of what happened here... but I think reducing visibility and exposure is probably a good idea in a situation like that.

     Like, an admin on an server of organizers should not be on the front lines, you know? That's what I'm saying. They have valuable intelligence and are running a communication hub lots of other organizing depends on.

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     Survival is Insufficient (itstrainingcatsanddogs@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 03:07:05 JST Survival is Insufficient

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     @hyenagirl64 I really hate these takes where people harmed by cops are told they somehow asked for it or brought it upon themselves, as if someone can't get arrested for simply existing.

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     Survival is Insufficient (itstrainingcatsanddogs@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 03:07:11 JST Survival is Insufficient

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     @hyenagirl64 Hold on...you also said that people shouldn't let large leftist instances exist?

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     MuffInTarnation (riotmuffin@ni.hil.ist)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 03:07:15 JST MuffInTarnation

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     @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs
     It’s a yikes on bikes attitude alright. “Don’t do anything meaningful because there might be consequences! don’t try anything radical because you might make mistakes!” sort of sums up the US American dominant culture mindset towards positive change, doesn’t it?

     @hyenagirl64