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   :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 03-Jul-2023 04:00:41 JST :blobcathug:
   @Lyude according to the latest rumors does facebook pay for federation with selected instances, no need to do that
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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 03-Jul-2023 05:25:00 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Poppy Farbird (Pen Name)
     @limepeep @Lyude yes, the first time i heard that rumor, everything suddenly made sense... thats also a very good reason to keep the meetings with meta under nda... i mean, why should they keep them under nda beside of that...
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     Poppy Farbird (Pen Name) (limepeep@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 03-Jul-2023 05:25:02 JST Poppy Farbird (Pen Name)

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     @Jain@blob.cat @Lyude@queer.party Wait, so Facebook's implementing only limited federation (aka whitelists)? I'm not surprised if that's the case, considering they can just easily cut off federation, and thus the large community to provide vibrant discourse, to one instance that decides not to kneel over to them. It would basically give Facebook abusive influence over the instances that want to federate with them. That's my prediction, at least, since I've never been a fan of projects that implement whitelisting, such as Peertube.

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     :blobcathug: (jain@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 03-Jul-2023 05:39:33 JST :blobcathug:

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     • Poppy Farbird (Pen Name)
     @icedquinn @Lyude @limepeep yeah me too, im more worried that if someone adds the money into their calculation that they basically buyed a share from fedi... If its true
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 03-Jul-2023 05:39:35 JST iced depresso

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     • Poppy Farbird (Pen Name)
     @Jain @limepeep @Lyude I kind of shrug at whitelisting because it's really relevant for some projects. Sandbox games tend to use it heavily because people are putting in a lot of hours to get something and it takes one bad actor significantly less time to lava bucket everything than it did to build.
     
     What I don't like is that it's damaging to social fabric in other ways. In practice people stop leaving the walled gardens so they stop being exposed to people, new people don't get opportunities to be invited, and the gardeners stagnate internally.
     
     On fedi it's mostly just used at the behest of insane ideology enforcement; but there's... some reasons to use it.