People talking about Safari on the Apple Vision One not properly handling :hover (to prevent sites and apps from measuring where you're looking for nefarious purposes) reminds me of the time I discovered I could make a page with a bunch of links on it and query the color of each link to figure out which sites your visitor uses. I didn't have a use for this, but was briefly disappointed when that hole eventually got patched. Basically right away I was like "yeah, I'm glad they fixed this."
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Jer Warren (nyquildotorg@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 02:19:17 JST Jer Warren
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Thomas 🔭✨ (thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 02:19:15 JST Thomas 🔭✨
@nyquildotorg There is literally no hover on phones/tablets either on iOS, since... 16 years ago. People are weird.
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Jer Warren (nyquildotorg@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 02:25:49 JST Jer Warren
@thomasfuchs right, but on tablets you have a finger to touch things with. If your only interface is looking at something, I understand the concern about not following standard hover rules/guidelines 🤷
In this case, I think it's less people being weird and more people trying to keep accessibility a thing. (Whether people with visual impairments are intendeding to purchase and use a purely visual device is a whole other story.)
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Thomas 🔭✨ (thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 02:25:49 JST Thomas 🔭✨
@nyquildotorg You can't hover with your finger. :) I can see the accessibility angle though.
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Thomas 🔭✨ (thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 02:33:33 JST Thomas 🔭✨
@nyquildotorg ah! Yeah that makes sense.
Presumably it could be an option for Apple to provide styling for some sort of pseudo selector. That’s what betas are for to figure out these issues.
(Also on the real hardware it might be a lot more visible than on simulator.)
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Jer Warren (nyquildotorg@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 02:33:34 JST Jer Warren
@thomasfuchs I think you're missing my point: you know which option you're selecting with your finger because it is literally sitting on the option you've selected. Safari on the AVO uses hover effects to show you what you're going to select, they're just far, far more subtle than the hover styling that the person who designed the site created. You can design a perfect accessible hover and Safari on AVO will just ignore it and use its own insufficient hover style. That's people's complaint.
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