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   Linus Torvalds (torvalds@social.kernel.org)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 15:59:00 JST Linus Torvalds

   PSA: when I’m unanimously elected Grand Pooh-Bah and Emperor - it’s only a matter of time, since the current political model certainly isn’t working - the whole “Sunday is the first day of the week” nonsense in the US calendars will go away.

   Just so you know.

   Yeah, I can deal with it by just setting my locale to be UK instead of US, and since I’m ok with 24-hour time anyway, that works well for me.

   I just want to save everybody else from this insanity. Who is with me?

   So to prepare for that inevitable day, I would strongly suggest that any calendaring app writer already make “Monday is the first day of the week” an option. You know it’s what most people think anyway.

   Kudos to Google Calendar for getting this right when so few others do (eg the “snooze until” calendar in gmail does not 😒).

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     Linus Torvalds (torvalds@social.kernel.org)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 15:58:58 JST Linus Torvalds

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     • Tommy Thorn

     @tommythorn strangely, I don’t actually mind imperial measurements. I’m perfectly fine converting C to F and back without any issues, and same for miles and km. I still have no idea how many feet to a mile, but it has never actually come up as an issue.

     During travels, I’ve had rental cars that have speedometers in mph, while the posted speed limit is in km/h, and after a short initial confusion about why everybody is driving so slow, I adapt just fine.

     I even got used to the strange date order.

     But middle of the weekend is not the first day of the week. Not even after living here for more than a quarter century. It’s one of the very few things that still trip me. It happened today, in fact.

     Thus the upcoming imperial decree.

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     Tommy Thorn (tommythorn@chaos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 15:58:59 JST Tommy Thorn

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     @torvalds 100% I fixing all the broken "1st weekday" settings when I can, and switch to 24 hour. However my SO refused to use my GPS as everything was in km :) "What, you can't scale it in your head?" was not a winning argument.

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     Ethan Black (golemwire@social.librem.one)'s status on Thursday, 15-Jun-2023 22:25:58 JST Ethan Black

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     • NiceMicro
     • Benjamin Hollon
     • Kevin Rogers

     @benjaminhollon @krogers @nicemicro @torvalds I'll be doing this from now on then 😅

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     Benjamin Hollon (benjaminhollon@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 15-Jun-2023 22:25:59 JST Benjamin Hollon

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     • NiceMicro
     • Kevin Rogers

     @krogers @nicemicro @torvalds

     Chiming in—I always use yyyy-mm-dd as well. If nothing else, it sorts files correctly when they’re prepended with dates. :)

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     Kevin Rogers (krogers@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 15-Jun-2023 22:26:06 JST Kevin Rogers

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     • NiceMicro

     @nicemicro @torvalds It's the only rational way. The other common formats can be misinterpreted. Is 2/1/2023 in January or February? You need the context to figure it out. 2023-01-02 is pretty clear.

     Okay, there probably is someone out there happily doing YYYY-DD-MM, but we don't hang out.

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     NiceMicro (nicemicro@fosstodon.org)'s status on Thursday, 15-Jun-2023 22:26:08 JST NiceMicro

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     @torvalds yes thank you.

     Also please switch to year-month-date everywhere. On that front, the Asians (and the Hungarians) are clearly doing it better than the others.