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   augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 03:20:24 JST augustus pugin 🌖
   the revolution is in safe hands
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 03:21:19 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     what's an ML?
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     of nothing (apropos@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 03:24:34 JST of nothing

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     @augustus probably Marxist-Leninist
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     errante (errante@rot.gives)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 03:28:55 JST errante

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     @augustus industrial society
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 03:29:18 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @errante indeed. "surrogate activities"
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     wauwa (laura4@mirr0r.city)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 03:52:39 JST wauwa

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     @Sp @augustus "Based"
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     Spag🍝 (sp@ghetti.monster)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 03:52:41 JST Spag🍝

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     @laura4 @augustus I wish the average was that based, they're like 98% libs
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     wauwa (laura4@mirr0r.city)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 03:52:42 JST wauwa

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     @augustus average reddit trans girl
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 03:54:21 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @Sp @laura4 because if anything can put you to sleep its das fuckin capital
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     Spag🍝 (sp@ghetti.monster)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 03:54:23 JST Spag🍝

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     @laura4 @augustus Marxist-Leninist?
     Identifies as tankie?
     
     Yes, based
     
     I will read theory for her to go to sleep
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 04:03:44 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @Sp @laura4 I don't like marx because in my view he was a dirty liberal who supported free trade and I think protectionism is the only way to help the workers. same with open borders types today who want to drive down labor prices while believing they're helping workers, its sad smh
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     Spag🍝 (sp@ghetti.monster)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 04:03:45 JST Spag🍝

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     @augustus @laura4 Lmao true
     idek how many times linen and coats are mentioned before page 100
     
     I'm glad the soviets rewrote it to be more accessible and the most important parts, like party organization and dieleticism are beautifully written by Stalin, though technical
     
     My favourite author is Ho Chi Minh, he puts his points on paper so well and writes with such passion that I could not help but to cry reading of how he became a leninist
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 04:09:29 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @errante @Sp @laura4 very liberal of u
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     errante (errante@rot.gives)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 04:09:30 JST errante

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     @laura4 @Sp @augustus i am for the abolition of borders
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     wauwa (laura4@mirr0r.city)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 04:09:31 JST wauwa

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     @augustus @Sp lol @ closed borders
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     errante (errante@rot.gives)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 04:18:39 JST errante

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     @augustus @Sp @laura4 how do you define a liberal
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 04:18:39 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @errante @Sp @laura4 supporting free trade and being against protectionism is liberal. i think restrictions on capitalism (like tariffs, or stopping labor moving across borders) are good.
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 04:19:46 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @errante @Sp @laura4 open borders drives down workers wages and helps bosses get richer, so maybe u do
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     errante (errante@rot.gives)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 04:19:47 JST errante

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     @augustus @Sp @laura4 i dont support capitalism
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     聖騎士 (deadheat@cawfee.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 04:54:52 JST 聖騎士

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     @augustus Since the left made these people into their most important soldiers, I think it's only appropriate for socially awkward transbian demigirls to be officially considered the successors of Marx and Lenin.
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 04:57:50 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @deadheat its just another flavor of sans-culotteism, the only cure for which is to be blasted with grapeshot by the emperors imperial grenadiers
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 08:47:13 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @Sp @laura4 That's Mao, I'm talking about Marx and his support for liberal free trade: https://libcom.org/library/on-free-trade-karl-marx
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     Spag🍝 (sp@ghetti.monster)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 08:47:14 JST Spag🍝

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     @augustus @laura4 Are you saying this ideology is liberal?
     
     https://www.marxists.org/ref...
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 08:54:55 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @Sp @laura4 this was the same year he wrote the Communist Manifesto and he never changed his mind.
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     Spag🍝 (sp@ghetti.monster)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 08:54:57 JST Spag🍝

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     @augustus @laura4 Yes, what was Marx's age then
     
     Keep in mind that Marx wasn't born a commie
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     نبي الحيوان (mono@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 09:46:51 JST نبي الحيوان

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     @Sp @laura4 @errante @augustus
     
     >less than 100k Americans moved to the USSR from 1920 to 1930
     
     >By 1937, many of the Americans were arrested alongside untold numbers of Soviet citizens. Some were executed. Others were sent to "corrective labor" camps in the Gulag where they were worked to death
     
     They had arrived just in time for Stalins great purge
     
     http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7537000/7537585.stm
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     Spag🍝 (sp@ghetti.monster)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 09:46:52 JST Spag🍝

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     @mono @laura4 @errante @augustus During the great depression there was mass migration to the USSR because while the whole world was fucked, communism thrived
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     نبي الحيوان (mono@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 09:46:53 JST نبي الحيوان

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     @augustus @errante @Sp @laura4 open borders and gommunism isn’t contradictory because gommunists want to make everything shitty so nobody will want to immigrate
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 09:59:20 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @Sp @laura4 and when they all lose their jobs because the industries they worked in were killed by foreign industrial competition, is that also based too? this is what liberalism brings us
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     Spag🍝 (sp@ghetti.monster)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 09:59:21 JST Spag🍝

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     @augustus @laura4 Based, glad he didn't on that
     
     Worker should own their own work and decide who to trade with
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 10:11:23 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @Sp @laura4 but we've just established that Marx was in favor of open markets and free trade between nations with zero tariffs AKA capitalism which will result in industrial competition and mass job losses.
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     Spag🍝 (sp@ghetti.monster)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 10:11:24 JST Spag🍝

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     @augustus @laura4 Well, that can only happen in capitalism, as communism is against a competitive market
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 10:17:33 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @Sp @laura4 >But, in general, the protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade.
     he supported free trade specifically because it would "break up" nations and antagonize workers to the point of them revolting. I want workers to have good wages and nice lives and not live in misery.
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     Spag🍝 (sp@ghetti.monster)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 10:17:34 JST Spag🍝

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     @augustus @laura4 Wtf lmao no he wasn't, first of all because he was in favour of abolishing all nations 😂
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     御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 10:23:09 JST 御園はくい

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     @augustus @Sp @laura4 please understand, if people have good wages and nice lives they won't want to be foot soldiers for your revolution
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 10:23:25 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @hakui @Sp @laura4 sounds like dangerous populism to me
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     augustus pugin 🌖 (augustus@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 10:34:31 JST augustus pugin 🌖

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     @Sp @laura4 communists support liberalism because they're liberals, like marx. "lets let capitalism destroy everything and then maybe people will revolt?" it's not a good platform, it's just Cobden/Bright but with different framing. actually propose restrictions on international capital and these "communists" will bite your head off.
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     Spag🍝 (sp@ghetti.monster)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Jun-2023 10:34:32 JST Spag🍝

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     @augustus @laura4 Yes, as he said in another text, paraphrasing, capitalism is self destructive, for the things it needs to do to thrive will inevitably bring its own end, though at the end of his life he was starting to stop believing that
     
     As it was better put by Lenin: "The capitalists will sell us the rope we'll hang them with", which also is a great example of why communists support liberalism when still inside capitalism
     
     Besides, because of the theory of Historical Dialectics, he also sees capitalist liberalism as better than slavery capitalism, and that as better than feudalism, and communism as a next step beyond capitalism in all its forms