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   翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 05-Jun-2023 23:32:47 JST 翠星石
   @asahi95 Vivaldi is proprietary malware: https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/vivaldi
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 05-Jun-2023 23:53:38 JST 翠星石

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     • blobcat
     @meow >requesting images on start up(???) ≠ spyware
     Merely the act of requesting images can be used to facilitate spying, but even then, I don't believe what Vivaldi does is limited to merely requesting images on startup.
     
     >a webpage with new features after an update that’s behind cloudflare ≠ spyware
     Clownflare is a huge MiTM that can see the request being made, so cloudflare there is indeed spying happening if clownflare is used at all.
     
     >If you care about privacy, just change it
     It appears that browsers love to give a small selection of search engines that all spy and also make it hard to add other ones, which I assume Vivaldi does too.
     
     >private search engine >DDG >Startpage
     Yikes.
     
     >not being "open source"
     GNU/Jihad against "open source" and all other forms of proprietary software!!!
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     blobcat (meow@fedi.absturztau.be)'s status on Monday, 05-Jun-2023 23:53:40 JST blobcat

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     @Suiseiseki @asahi95 i hate every time someone posts this website because of how paranoid it is
     requesting images on start up(???) ≠ spyware
     a webpage with new features after an update that’s behind cloudflare ≠ spyware
     their default search engine isn’t Bing + If you care about privacy, just change it, Vivaldi isn’t forcing you to use Bing or Google + You sometimes get a message on the new tab with Vivaldi asking you if I want to use a more private search engine like DDG and Startpage
     Their UI not being open source is the biggest thing you can probably put against them lmao