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   Ricky Mondello (rmondello@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 21-May-2023 23:45:27 JST Ricky Mondello

   It is quite the thing to present whatever this is as a privacy feature.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 21-May-2023 23:50:22 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Nick Lockwood

     @rmondello @nicklockwood
     I have noticed many times over the years Google defining “privacy” to mean “we have your personal data, as opposed to a different third party.”

     I’m not sure that’s just marketing BS. I get the impression that at Google, “we are always on the inside of the circle of trust” and “we are the good guys” are assumptions baked into company culture so deeply that people there can’t always even see them, let alone question them.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 22-May-2023 09:09:31 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Scenario

     @nicklockwood @scenario @rmondello @bayport
     That rings true to me. I also think the culture of the company has shifted quite a bit over the years, and “don’t be evil” meant something much closer to its literal meaning early on. The company’s increasing willingness to make concessions to China is a good example of that.

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     Scenario (scenario@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 22-May-2023 09:09:32 JST Scenario

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     • Nick Lockwood

     @inthehands @rmondello @nicklockwood @bayport Google is first and foremost a tracking company that sells your PII to advertisers. A product so evil, their motto was “Don’t be evil.”

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     Nick Lockwood (nicklockwood@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 22-May-2023 09:09:32 JST Nick Lockwood

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     • Scenario

     @scenario @inthehands @rmondello @bayport "Don't be evil" was really code for "Don't be Microsoft", who everyone saw as the bad guy at the time Google was founded. Google was right to take a stand against Microsoft's predatory pricing, licensing and monopolizing - I just don't think they anticipated at the time that their free search engine would eventually grow into something even worse.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 22-May-2023 10:28:36 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Gen X-Wing

     @breadbin
     The only data that is secure is data that does not exist.

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     Gen X-Wing (breadbin@bitbang.social)'s status on Monday, 22-May-2023 10:28:37 JST Gen X-Wing

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     • Paul Cantrell

     @inthehands Trying to argue the concept that “anyone having that data is the core problem in the first place” has been very difficult at times:( The type of comebacks really makes you question people’s reading comprehension.

     It’s not HIPAA, where we need to guard who has access, because there’s a group that do need access for *my* benefit.

     Nobody should have access to this data, and if it’s stored anywhere then that’s not the case.

     My two cents.