Strypey
@adamgreenfield
> distributed fab is still seen as a solution in search of a problem
Fair call. But I remember the net being seen this way until the late 90s, or even early noughties.
The makerspaces fabricating ventilation gear during the height of the pandemic caught my interest, but as always with these cheerleading stories, the finer details are a bit more complicated. See the discussion here:
https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/3d-printing-ventillator-valves/70024
Adam Greenfield
@bhaugen My frustration with Fab City is proportionate to the amount of promise there. There's more to say than I can fully express here, only some of which worked its way into the chapter on digital fabrication in "Radical Technologies." A gut take — that I nevertheless hold lightly & am prepared to discard — is that they haven't prospered because distributed fab is still seen as a solution in search of a problem, and they haven't done a good enough job of connecting it to real-world struggles.
bhaugen
@adamgreenfield for the physical layer we think of physical resource networks, for example "grain chains" around us, involving farmers, millers, bakers, brewers, cafes, grocers, food pantries, etc. Or https://fab.city/ or https://learndeep.org/
Adam Greenfield
@bhaugen Well, a Lifehouse doesn’t have to be a church. It could be any structure that’s central enough to the local walkshed, physically and psychically, and capable of supporting the kind of infrastructure we’re talking about. Does a convivial stack require physical sites? I see the physical as one of its layers, in that we are invited and empowered to intervene in the construction, management and stewardship of the built fabric, the social environment and the technological surround.
bhaugen
@adamgreenfield does a convivial stack as you see it require physical locations eg lifehouses?
I also wonder if vacant churches is a UK phenomenon? I live inn the midwest US. Don't see many vacant churches, alas.
#Lifehouse
Adam Greenfield
@bhaugen I think it’s first incumbent of me to flesh it out at appropriate length in this book I’m writing, using “case studies” or concrete historical examples wherever possible (including the #Lifehouse material). Then, if there’s sufficient interest, I’d like to help broker a series of conversations at the interfaces between relevant communities of practice, maybe even in the form of an event. We’ll see!
bhaugen
@adamgreenfield how do you want to proceed with your convivial stack vision?
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