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   Tom Ritchford (tomswirly@toot.community)'s status on Monday, 15-May-2023 00:34:04 JST Tom Ritchford

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   • clacke
   • Dan Gillmor
   • Louis Ingenthron
   • cobalt

   @LouisIngenthron @clacke @dangillmor @cobalt To be accurate, your analogy would have to have a slave owned from birth to death by a King, sitting at every campfire, and giving back nothing to any community.

   Really, to compare an individual listening to another individual around a campfire to a huge machine sucking in billions of documents is just a false comparison entirely.

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     Louis Ingenthron (louisingenthron@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 15-May-2023 00:34:05 JST Louis Ingenthron

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     • clacke
     • Dan Gillmor
     • cobalt

     @clacke @dangillmor @cobalt Hate to tell you this, but so can anyone who hears your verbal story. There's no DRM around a campfire.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 15-May-2023 00:34:06 JST clacke

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     • Dan Gillmor
     • Louis Ingenthron
     • cobalt

     @LouisIngenthron The power asymmetry doesn't go away because you self-host, they can scrape your site too.

     @dangillmor @cobalt

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     Louis Ingenthron (louisingenthron@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 15-May-2023 00:34:07 JST Louis Ingenthron

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     • Dan Gillmor
     • cobalt

     @cobalt @dangillmor Or you could just use Wikipedia or host whatever information you want on your own site.

     People pretend like these companies hold some magical power, but the only power they truly have is that people choose to use their services, and that can always change.

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     cobalt (cobalt@awscommunity.social)'s status on Monday, 15-May-2023 00:34:08 JST cobalt

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     • Dan Gillmor

     @dangillmor maybe our future will include the necessary return of oral histories and passing on knowledge directly one to one in training and teaching.

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     Dan Gillmor (dangillmor@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 15-May-2023 00:34:09 JST Dan Gillmor

     "(W)hat we are witnessing is the wealthiest companies in history (Microsoft, Apple, Google, Meta, Amazon …) unilaterally seizing the sum total of human knowledge that exists in digital, scrapable form and walling it off inside proprietary products, many of which will take direct aim at the humans whose lifetime of labor trained the machines without giving permission or consent."

     https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/08/ai-machines-hallucinating-naomi-klein