ArtBear
You literally can't, not if you want Fediverse & decentralisation to succeed.
Can't cheerlead federation from a place that defederates on a whim like a little village instance.
An intended flagship instance needs proper investigation, communication, & extensive negotiation policy before it cuts 70,000 queer, trans, progressive, allies etc out of it's network.
That's how Fedi dream dies & communities are harmed, depriving them of 70k support based on unsubstantiated sketchy info.
Chris Trottier
@ArtBear It’s better to air on the side of caution. And we’re already having conversations with @wild1145 about re-federating.
Chris Trottier
@ArtBear I spoke with @wild1145 yesterday. I also let him know @kainoa will be in touch.
I’m keen for a resolution, but it’s important they have a dialogue before a decision is made.
ArtBear
For Fediverse to work the major instances can't have the nuclear option of getting blocked deployed without communication & negotiation.
Tiny instances can do what they like but flagship instances have to stay linked, and talk to each other and not block/defed, especially not based on sketchy single sourced misunderstandings.
Or they can't be flagship instances.
Chris Trottier
@the_roamer @ArtBear @wild1145 Let me give you context. For two weeks in March, I was on vacation. During that time @kainoa was the sole mod on calckey.social. The server only had 200 accounts and was not the flagship #Calckey instance. He received two reports, didn’t hear back, and made the best decision he could at the time—with the information he had. A month later, things change and we re-assess.
the roamer
@atomicpoet @ArtBear @wild1145
Good to hear that you are now talking to the other instance and consider re-federation. Disappointing that these conversations didn't take place *before* the block was imposed.
It also seems that the decision was based on second-hand information, not on reports from calckey.social users.
If the current block actually is a new block. I am still not sure whether calckey.social ever revoked the block from last November, as others did.
Not a pleasant sight.
Chris Trottier
@the_roamer @ArtBear @wild1145 @kainoa Here’s the other thing. Nobody could have predicted what happened with calckey.social. It went from being my side project to being a major concern very, very quickly. So no, there was no big conversations with other server admins because it wasn’t even a blip on the radar until recently.
Now that things are what they are, we adjust.
the roamer
@atomicpoet @ArtBear @wild1145 @kainoa
Moderation is an impossible job. With every decision, there will be unhappy parties, and occasionally a decision will be wrong. We need moderators, and I for one am grateful to those who are willing to do the work.
What matters is that mistakes, if they do happen, are noted and lessons are learned.
It seems that the current case has led calckey to a review of its moderation processes. A constructive outcome, and good news for a federated network.
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