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   Sundae_Gurl (sundae_gurl@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 08-May-2023 07:16:59 JST Sundae_Gurl

   Stopping gun violence is such a complex issue that only every other advanced nation in the entire world has figured it out.

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     John Meadows (jgmeadows@mstdn.ca)'s status on Monday, 08-May-2023 07:16:58 JST John Meadows

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     @Sundae_Gurl To stop gun violence in the US would require admitting at least the possibility that the American way is not always the best way, which flies in the face of American Exceptionalism.

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Monday, 08-May-2023 07:16:58 JST feld

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     In America even the criminals are exceptional. Gun control won't work here because our criminals are the best in the world. :patriot:
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Monday, 08-May-2023 10:17:03 JST feld

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     @qqmrichter @realcaseyrollins @Sundae_Gurl @Jgmeadows Knives require much much more commitment to the act than pulling a trigger from a distance. It's far more personal and brutal, and requires a different level of courage if you're not on drugs/alcohol too.
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     Michael T. Richter (qqmrichter@mastodon.world)'s status on Monday, 08-May-2023 10:17:04 JST Michael T. Richter

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     @realcaseyrollins @feld @Sundae_Gurl @Jgmeadows So psycho attacks a primary school with a gun and kills 26, injures 2. Psycho attacks a primary school with a knife and kills 0 (or 1, maybe, depending on how you want to count it) and injures 24 (or 23).

     So FUCK YES I'll GLADLY switch out gun attacks for knife attacks! Jesus fucking CHRIST do you have to be stupid to think that this is even remotely similar in impact!

     But ... the lesson doesn't even end there.

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     Michael T. Richter (qqmrichter@mastodon.world)'s status on Monday, 08-May-2023 10:17:05 JST Michael T. Richter

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     @realcaseyrollins @feld @Sundae_Gurl @Jgmeadows It is instructive, however, to compare these two attacks, their impacts, and what happened subsequently.

     Instructive to the USA. Which is the part that likely galls the Manifest Destiny country.

     The main difference between these attacks is that the attacker in one had access to a gun. The other attacker had to steal a knife. Because of this *all of the victims survived* (though the elderly woman later died of a heart attack).

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     Michael T. Richter (qqmrichter@mastodon.world)'s status on Monday, 08-May-2023 10:17:06 JST Michael T. Richter

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     @realcaseyrollins @feld @Sundae_Gurl @Jgmeadows Now at this point the date and the events are likely not matching in your mind. That's because the date is the date of **two** primary school attacks. One was the one you're thinking of: Sandy Hook Elementary. The other was the one you likely didn't hear about because the shocking slaughter of children in your own country concealed it: Chenpeng Village Primary School.

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     realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Monday, 08-May-2023 10:17:08 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️

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     @feld @Jgmeadows @Sundae_Gurl There is something to that! 😂

     We have two options:

     1. Trade shootings for knife attacks, bombings and using cars as weapons

     2. Find ways to get people to be less violent

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     Michael T. Richter (qqmrichter@mastodon.world)'s status on Monday, 08-May-2023 10:17:08 JST Michael T. Richter

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     @realcaseyrollins @feld @Sundae_Gurl @Jgmeadows Jesus fuck! Not this old chestnut again!

     Join me in the wayback machine, OK?

     On December 14, 2012, a man suffering from untreated mental illness attacked an elderly woman with a weapon before entering the grounds of a nearby primary school. Using that same weapon he started attacking children with abandon. Before he was finally stopped and taken into custody 24 people (all but one children) were wounded.

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     Michael T. Richter (qqmrichter@mastodon.world)'s status on Monday, 08-May-2023 10:21:27 JST Michael T. Richter

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     @feld @Sundae_Gurl @Jgmeadows @realcaseyrollins Absolutely. And it's easier to flee a knifeman than a bullet. And you can control a knifeman with a mancatcher, but a gunman ... not so easily. And knives are nowhere near as lethal as guns. And ...

     Anybody who thinks that you'll just be "trading" gun deaths for knife deaths if you ban guns is ignorant, stupid, or both.

     Or is selling something that goes "BANG!"...

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