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   Dave Winer ☕️ (davew@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 05-May-2023 13:28:01 JST Dave Winer ☕️

   I’ll make a prediction. With all the protocols floating around SocialMediaLand, and more sure to come, ultimately they’ll all be tied together by RSS.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 05-May-2023 13:28:33 JST clacke

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     @davew OStatus come back everything is forgiven
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 01:49:02 JST clacke

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     • Dan Lyke

     @danlyke @davew OStatus = ActivityStreams + Atom + PuSH/WebSub, it's what Fedi ran on before 2019.

     Mastodon switched to ActivityPub mainly because of a simpler protocol stack and explicit support for scoped addressing, which enables DMs. This caused other Fedi applications to move as well, as well as leading to a cambrian explosion of entirely new applications.

     So while using the equivalent of RSS for all this is clearly possible, it was leaving that behind that created the network we see today.

     Still, Mastodon does offer RSS feeds for all users: mastodon.social/@clacke.rss

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     Dave Winer ☕️ (davew@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 01:49:04 JST Dave Winer ☕️

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     the thing about RSS is we all know what it is and what it can do. there is no mystery to it at all.

     we should insist that all the new social media platforms AT LEAST provide outbound RSS so our ideas aren't locked into their databases.

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     Dan Lyke (danlyke@researchbuzz.masto.host)'s status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 01:49:04 JST Dan Lyke

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     @davew it seems like RSS and a few other things could provide almost all of what we seek out in Mastodon, except for how quickly the messages propagate.

     So I guess we need reader which understands threading and references to other posts, and convince people to blog on their own domains again.

     And I need to fix my RSS feeds to be more usable in a modern world.

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     Dave Winer ☕️ (davew@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 19:01:42 JST Dave Winer ☕️

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     • Dan Lyke

     @clacke @danlyke

     no problem with all that. but we're looking for a common denominator between all the different social networks.

     it's good that mastodon and hopefully the other activitypub apps support outbound rss.

     if this becomes something all the different networks do, not just those that are AP based, then we will be able to build across that.

     we're going to anyway, simply because mastodon supports rss and so does wordpress, btw. ;-)

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 19:04:45 JST clacke

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     • Dan Lyke
     • Piers Cawley

     @pdcawley That would be great. Friendica does it! GNU Social does it if the feed has PuSH/WebSub.

     @danlyke @davew

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     Piers Cawley (pdcawley@mendeddrum.org)'s status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 19:04:46 JST Piers Cawley

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     • Dan Lyke

     @davew @clacke @danlyke certainly it'd be great if I could subscribe to an arbitrary RSS or Atom feed from Mastodon.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 19:07:24 JST clacke

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     • Steve Williams
     • Dan Lyke
     • Piers Cawley

     @blabberlicious @danlyke @pdcawley @davew The way is add that functionality to Mastodon.

     If Gargron won't accept it, maybe glitch-soc or one of the other forks could add it.

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     Steve Williams (blabberlicious@econtwitter.net)'s status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 19:07:25 JST Steve Williams

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     • clacke
     • Dan Lyke
     • Piers Cawley

     @pdcawley @davew @clacke @danlyke Wouldn’t it?
     I do it the other way round. There must be a way?

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 19:09:18 JST clacke

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     • Peter du Toit
     @peterdutoit @davew I also follow a couple of Twitter feeds by subscribing Friendica to the Nitter RSS. I agree that it really is something social servers should support, both directions, even if they don't support all the other interactions.
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     Peter du Toit (peterdutoit@mastodon.green)'s status on Saturday, 06-May-2023 19:09:19 JST Peter du Toit

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     @davew case in point over on Nostr.