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   tech? no! man, see... (technomancy@icosahedron.website)'s status on Sunday, 30-Apr-2023 00:10:34 JST tech? no! man, see...

   • Csepp ?

   @csepp I think some of it is residue from the 80s when lisp was relatively unique in having GC, lambdas, a repl, etc, and mainstream alternatives were legitimately very tedious in comparison

   but now the status quo has caught up on basically everything but notation and macros

   those factors make things a lot more pleasant but not any more productive, and in the mean time the productivity boost you get from a library ecosystem has shot up tremendously

   and some people are still continuing with the same arguments from the olden days

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     Vertigo #$FF (vertigo@hackers.town)'s status on Sunday, 30-Apr-2023 10:38:45 JST Vertigo #$FF

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     • Csepp ?

     @technomancy @csepp

     but now the status quo has caught up on basically everything but notation and macros

     Rust macros have made significant strides at solving that problem; but, even before then, PL/I had a macro system that was similarly capable.

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