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people overlook the extent to which the internet has destroyed everything. Imagine what your life would have turned out like without it.
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I probably wouldn't have ever been exposed to 'atheism', I'd be a mega-normie Catholic clueless to the world around me, keeping alive zombified leftist boomerisms. I don't think people were supposed to know all the stuff the internet has given me knowledge about, it's too much. I'd take the blue pill if I could.
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There would still be memes zipping around the world like in pre-internet era, but it would be much slower and higher friction. Not like now where stuff like trans explodes and then infects the entire next generation in a few years.
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@augustus Can I still imagine having a laptop for creative endeavours?
Also, shockingly, people would probably need to create small communities to gather for socialising and get their news... well, probably from the TV with maybe limited stations or the radio. If we did away with those, then from the printed press. Bringing newspapers back in.
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@augustus Nah, I think you would be exposed to atheism. At least, I think that I would have been from the school system. It's more in support of liberalism, explaining things with science than with religion. I think I'd be heading in that direction even if I didn't know the word for it straight away. But I think you have a point about how much knowledge the internet gives us. The same can be said for books too, so you'd probably be busy consuming those in your free time. It would at least be done at a slower pace.
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@augustus I think about it every day.
They got us so fucking good. I mean look at this. This was an amazing visual back in the day.
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@sim I would have gone on the same journey I've been on but about 10x slower. also I went to Catholic school but I remember them teaching us in Religious Education class about prejudice, bigotry and discrimination. gets the ole neurons firing. slipping in liberal religious language in by the back door.
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@augustus the internet originally had a militray purpose and was not intended for random people to shitpost how their day was or post retarded memes that serve no purpose. I don't think its a bad tool just how people use it
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@Varus all the tools we evolved into having is thrown out of whack by this thing which delocalizes us and introduces information mass and scale. the lesson of faust was giving humans superpowers will always destroy them and take away their humanity. a small reason why twitter turns people into such cunts
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@augustus Yeah, the school system slipped that in there and you can imagine it is worse in a school that isn't catholic. I don't remember having the internet as a child and I was already on that journey to becoming an atheist. But the internet gave me a definition that fit for me, I found a small community on twitter that could articulate things better than I could and I could use it to vent my stress and problems. On saying this, without the internet I might not have gone on this existential journey. I might just be some form of spiritualist, but even that might have required the internet. Haha. I didn't trust religion or science as a kid at one point. :')
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@augustus think about what people are even doing with this information they have at disposable. most people are not reading anything of value they are watching short videos or shitposts on 4chan.
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@augustus i would be more susceptible to all the psyops
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@hakui maybe that's good, maybe that's bad. don't you want to snuggle down into the nice cozy psyop
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@augustus @Varus I been thinking people should spend less time on the internet. But I'm not better
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@augustus @Varus like don't get me wrong it's nice to talk to online friends and people on the internet. But being terminally online doesn't seem fun to me.
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@augustus I would be even more horrifically lonely without the internet
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@augustus I miss having boredom be a stimulus to be creative.
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@augustus it's funny to think about, the meme of "kid goes to university, comes back a brainwashed liberal" was a real thing. every uni (in usa + afaik) forces you to take a good chunk of social classes which will usually overrepresent socialist writers. when you take these classes now, it's just twitter drivel that everyone already knows about, very easy to understand exactly what they want you to say. i assume this was the same setup as pre-internet, and the brainwashing actually worked bc they didn't have exposure to these ideas before going off to college. lots of similar relics from archaic attempts at social change are still here today (boy scouts, charities, churches)
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@augustus @Varus I thought the lesson of Faust was "don't trust Germans"
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Nah, I think the internet is great. I think the direction of the internet has gone is just a consequence of smartphones... which basically have ruined society (probably). So, I'll blame them, instead.