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fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:08:42 JST fu
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@realcaseyrollins @jordonr @Fu There is nothing wrong with the truth in all of that

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  jordonr@mastodon.technology's status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:08:46 JST jordonr
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  @realcaseyrollins @Fu Issues with Catholic doctrines:
  * Salvation is faith plus works (Council of Trent)
  * Immaculate conception of Mary
  * That Mary is co-redemptix and mediatrix with Christ
  * Mary remaining a virgin, claiming the brothers of Jesus are actually cousins
  * The whole idea there’s this store house of good works, filled by those who have been sainted.
  You won’t find any of this the Bible. Most Catholics don’t even know their own doctrine.
  
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  > It clearly indicates that we should cling to tradition whether that tradition be written or not.
  
  Which traditions?
  
  > What do you mean by "God gave us in the Scriptures"?
  
  What's in the Bible
  
  > Christ Jesus founded the Catholic Church
  
  Hold up are you talking about when he was talking to Paul that one time?
  
  > The idea of "Bible alone"...didn't even exist prior to the 14th century
  
  According to who?
  
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  Ji Fu (fu@hostux.social)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:08:48 JST Ji Fu
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  The idea of "the Bible alone", called Sola scriptura in theological terms, didn't even exist prior to the 14th century, and had near 0 influence on Christians until the 16th century.
  
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  @realcaseyrollins what do you mean by "God gave us in the scriptures"? Christ Jesus founded the Catholic Church and gave us Tradition, of which the Bible is part of. Your description sounds as if the Bible where some magic book discovered to teach all truths, like the LDS believes of The Book of Mormon.
  
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  The New Testament didn’t exist until the pope declared it as such in the 4th century.
  What? Like, as books? The books were gradually written over thousands of years, they weren’t given to us by Catholicism.
  Also, I find it strange that you think 2 Thessalonians 2:15 mandates adding to Scripture, as it doesn’t seem like that’s what’s explicitly being encouraged here. Can you explain why you think this passage condones the addition of new rules to what God has given us in the Scriptures? Was what God gave us not good enough, that we have to make stuff up in order for our salvation to be complete?
  
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  fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:08:52 JST fu
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  @Fu @realcaseyrollins not trolling. The New Testament didn't exist until the pope declared it as such in the 4th century. Regarding the Bible alone being unbiblical "Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours."
  2 Thessalonians 2:15 NABRE
  bible.com/bible/463/2th.2.15.N…
  
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  realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:08:53 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️
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  Are you...being serious? Or are you trolling me rn?
  
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  Ji Fu (fu@hostux.social)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:08:54 JST Ji Fu
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  @realcaseyrollins Catholics gave us the Bible. It is only one part of sacred tradition. To treat Christianity as "the Bible alone" it is not only anti-history, but it's anti-biblical.
  
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  @Fu You're right to some extent, although it can't be denied that #Catholic dogma adds things to Scripture that weren't there to begin with, and they were certainly analogous to the Pharisees at one point.
  
  Their addition of new objects of veneration, unforgivable sins, etc. leads to a somewhat different Gospel than what you'll see in most #Christian denominations.
  
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  Ji Fu (fu@hostux.social)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:08:56 JST Ji Fu
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  @realcaseyrollins wrong as usual ;-) #Christian dogma is all based on #Catholic #Traditition. #Protestants, particularly the #baptists #evangelicals and so-called non-denominational Christians, have just watered down Christian thelogoy to make it more pallitable. Regardless all of those Christians have a lot to offer the faith. For the most part Catholics have as much to learn from Evangelicals as vice versa. Learn from all. If you seek the truth, the #chruch will show up
  
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  @Fu IDK I think #Catholic doctrine deviates a bit from #Christian doctrine
  
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  Ji Fu (fu@hostux.social)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:08:58 JST Ji Fu
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  @realcaseyrollins and of course #Catholic is #Christian. Would you not consider something because it was #Baptist?
  
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  @Fu Aren't those all #Catholic tho, not #Christian?
  
  I do enjoy banter content, I've listened to #DoctrineAndDevotion before, for example, but for now I want someone a lil deeper
  
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  realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:09:01 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️
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  Hello @fellowship friends!
  I’m trying out some #Christian webcasts/podcasts, and rn I’m listening to #WretchedRadio and the #Wretched podcast (still not sure what the difference is) and #JamesWhite’s #ApologiaMinistries podcast. Do y’all have some recommendations of some other broadcasters who are in a similar vein?
  
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  Ji Fu (fu@hostux.social)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:09:01 JST Ji Fu
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  @realcaseyrollins I'm not that into podcasts these days, but there's a few faith based ones i still have on my list, a Nuns life, Two Drunk ex-pastors, Catholic Women Preach, More2Life, Belivers Voice of Victory, Catholic Answers Live (I'm guessing this would be like your apologetics one) Everday Liminality (i think you might like this one as its Francisicans discussing movies, TV and other pop culture, no its not just "its all the devil"
  
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  realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:09:25 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️
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  @jordonr @Fu Yes and this is what I was getting at. Those verses Fu cited said to follow traditions. Okay, fine, but which traditions? Any of them? Whose traditions? How many? At what time?
  
  Paul would not have told Believers that they need to bind themselves to extrabiblical dictates.
  
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  fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:10:52 JST fu
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  @realcaseyrollins @jordonr @Fu You are correct as there was no such thing as biblical dictates in his day.
  
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  fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:13:39 JST fu
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  @realcaseyrollins @jordonr @Fu The traditions of the Church not of man. Starting with St. Peter, the first bishop of Rome and continuing with the magestetium of today, head by the current Bishop of Rome, Francis I
  
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  fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:15:03 JST fu
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  @realcaseyrollins @jordonr @Fu there is nothing biblical about the bible alone
  
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  fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:22:50 JST fu
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  @realcaseyrollins @jordonr @Fu I am not adding anything. You are correct salvation is a gift from Christ via his works and those of his Church. We are saved by his grace, not by a single choice of ours.
  Pi isn't in the Bible, is it not truth? Trinity is not in the Bible. Is it not true? Sunday sabbath isn't in the bible. Having a personal relationship with Jesus isn't in the bible. Ohm law isn't in the bible.
  
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  @fu@libranet.de @realcaseyrollins @Fu@hostux.social it’s not truth, it’s not in the Bible. There is no salvation apart from Christ Jesus. You add anything and you are preaching a false gospel.
  
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  fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:40:24 JST fu
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  @realcaseyrollins @jordonr @Fu I agree, Church tradition, which includes the Bible, is not man made.
  
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  @fu@libranet.de @realcaseyrollins @Fu@hostux.social The word Trinity isn’t, but the concept is in the Bible, when Jesus was baptized, we have God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit.
  Sunday worship is in the Bible, Acts 20:7, breaking bread aka communion/Lord’s Supper.
  Personal relationship with Christ: John 15, 1 John 4 and 5.
  Comparing truths in natural law to man made tradition is not the same in the slightest. Please read God’s word, the Bible.
  
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  fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:42:50 JST fu
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  @realcaseyrollins @jordonr @Fu Pray about it, I assure you the Holy Spirit will show you His truth.
  
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  fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:45:45 JST fu
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  @realcaseyrollins @Fu Talking to Paul that one time?
  
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  fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 16:46:32 JST fu
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  @realcaseyrollins @Fu According to recorded history. Even secular sources agree on this.
  
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  fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 12-Sep-2022 13:54:22 JST fu
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  @jordonr @otso 2,000 years of Catholic tradition makes it easy to call out heritical teachings like Unitarianism,but with the bible alone, everything is open to dome yagoos interruptions of translation.
  
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  @otso @fellowship Then who is Jesus? Why did it matter he died on the Cross? And if he wasn’t God, how could he forgive sins?
  The early church does not agree with your interpretation.
  “He says not ‘Our Father’: in one sense therefore, He is mine, in another sense He is yours; by nature mine, by grace yours... my God, under whom I also am as a man; your God, between whom and you I am a mediator.” - Augustine
  
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  The God of Jesus Christ was also the God of his disciples: "my God and your God" (John 20:17)
  
  that God was not the Trinity, but the Father, who according to Jesus is "the only true God."
  
  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2017:3&version=NIV
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    Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
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  @fellowship are you denying the deity of Christ and the trinity?
  
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  otso (otso@pleroma.karjalazet.se)'s status on Monday, 12-Sep-2022 13:54:27 JST otso
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  Jesus says: "I am the Son of God" (John 10:36)
  
  Christians say: no, you are "God the Son".
  
  #Christianity
  #JesusChrist
  
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  otso (otso@pleroma.karjalazet.se)'s status on Monday, 12-Sep-2022 13:54:29 JST otso
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  There is no “God the Son” in the Bible.
  
  “there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.” (1 Corinthians 8:6)
  
  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Timothy%202:5&version=NIV
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