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   The Psychotic Network Ferret (nuintari@infosec.exchange)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Mar-2023 03:45:59 JST The Psychotic Network Ferret

   Dear #Mikrotik fanboys, I realize I can't get you to stop using RouterOS completely. You are just hopelessly addicted to that garbage.

   But do you suppose l could entice you to stop deploying routers on sticks as your standard model?

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     The Psychotic Network Ferret (nuintari@infosec.exchange)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Mar-2023 03:50:41 JST The Psychotic Network Ferret

     • silverwizard

     @silverwizard Lemme find the rant.... it covers a ton of the reasons.

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     The Psychotic Network Ferret (nuintari@infosec.exchange)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Mar-2023 03:54:00 JST The Psychotic Network Ferret

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     • silverwizard

     @silverwizard Here, this covers a subset of the reasons:

     https://infosec.exchange/@nuintari/110063047379416606

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     The Psychotic Network Ferret (nuintari@infosec.exchange)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Mar-2023 04:15:38 JST The Psychotic Network Ferret

     • silverwizard

     @silverwizard Reason not in that rant:

     Its low cost leads to it frequently be used as a teaching tool, where its awfulness permeates fresh, young minds, and fills them with all the worst kinds of bullshit.

     If you learned networking on a Mikrotik, you learned so many things so very poorly, and more than a few flat out wrong.

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     The Psychotic Network Ferret (nuintari@infosec.exchange)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Mar-2023 04:27:58 JST The Psychotic Network Ferret

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     • silverwizard

     @silverwizard Today, I spun up OSPF on a Mikrotik in the old core, in a VRF, trunked a new VLAN over to the 'new core,' and tested migrating individual tower sites to the VRF.

     It was terrifying, I was just waiting to get knocked out, and safe mode engaging, which would mean a 2-3 minute outage.

     Shit like this is trivial on real network OS.

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     The Psychotic Network Ferret (nuintari@infosec.exchange)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Mar-2023 04:28:00 JST The Psychotic Network Ferret

     • silverwizard

     @silverwizard Try migrating 500 fixed wireless subscribers from an insanely poorly planned and implemented Mikrotik network over to anything else, with the expectation of never breaking anything, while management barks at you to move faster.... while also juggling other projects.

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     The Psychotic Network Ferret (nuintari@infosec.exchange)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Mar-2023 04:44:42 JST The Psychotic Network Ferret

     • silverwizard

     @silverwizard As for, "Need cheap device with wifi." My solution has been to not ever need to be that cheap. Also, I NEVER run wireless directly on my router. If I deploy something that cheap, I'll end up fixing it a lot more than a little.

     I would rather have the free time.