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   Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 00:20:15 JST Fediverse Contractor

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   • sneak
   • Jeff C. 🇺🇦
   It’s not so much that their personal choices are political, but that they impose them on others forcefully.
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     Jeff C. 🇺🇦 (jeff@indieweb.social)'s status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 00:20:16 JST Jeff C. 🇺🇦

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     • sneak

     @sneak @calcifer Closeted priests stay in the closet because they would be castigated within their peer group if they came out. It is the path of least resistance.

     Trans people who “come out” are frequently castigated — losing friends, family — and are frequently subject to violence. Doing so is a path featuring nothing BUT resistance.

     Virtually no cis person would sign up for that just to make a political point.

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     sneak (sneak@s.sneak.berlin)'s status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 00:20:18 JST sneak

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     • calcifer

     @calcifer well, i have yet to see any data supporting or opposing the idea that trans-ness or queer-ness is or is not a personal decision.

     if it is a personal decision, then it could be a political statement.

     i think the general orthodoxy is that it's not a decision, that it's innate, but there are other personal decisions surrounding it (actions, mostly) that are choices.

     i mean, all of the closeted gay priests are choosing *not* to make the political statement of coming out...

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     calcifer@hackers.town's status on Thursday, 23-Mar-2023 00:20:19 JST calcifer

     Well that's an interesting thing to learn. Apparently there are decent numbers of people that think being queer or trans is a political position. As in they genuinely believe that not only are these things people's choices, but that they're making those choices specifically to undermine specific political platforms. Specifically that they are effectively pretending to be queer or trans out of some political motivation

     I… don't even know where to start