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   寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 12:28:05 JST 寮
   Just a headsup, the "based" PeerTube makers have their own version of fashtag FediBlock for PeerTube instances:
   https://peertube_isolation.frama.io/list/
   
   It's just that PeerTube is currently the only federated video sharing software, but I think any alternative preferrably one that doesn't depend on SoyScript will be worth switching to.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 12:46:50 JST 寮

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     https://cornichon.me/@PeerTube_Isolation/104508025370515992
     
     "Uses memes as thumbnails, is worried about censorship on JewTube, makes videos about Linux and technology, THAT GUY IS SUCH A DANGEROUS EXTREMIST!!"
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     xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 12:47:07 JST xianc78

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     @ryo It uses JavaScript because it uses WebTorrent to save server space.

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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 12:47:58 JST 寮

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     • xianc78
     @xianc78 Video files are stored on the server in full and in multiple formats anyway, so I don't think it's valid.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 12:52:36 JST iced depresso

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     @ryo is this actually sanctioned by framasoft itself
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 12:53:49 JST 寮

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     @icedquinn Seems to be hosted on one of their own domains though.
     Also, let's not forget that Framashit signed the petition in favor of having Richard Stallman cancelled, which in itself is a massive red flag already.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 12:55:26 JST iced depresso

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     @ryo well'p.
     
     guess its good i never thought much of them either way.
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     Kerosene :ancapshades: (kerosene@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:23:41 JST Kerosene :ancapshades:

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     • xianc78
     @xianc78 @ryo From time to time I wonder if it would be better for browser to natively support all of that stuff instead of relying on JavaScript to use it, or if it would just make things worse giving the tendency to replace everything with webshit :jotarosweat:
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:24:46 JST 寮

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     • Kerosene :ancapshades:
     @kerosene @xianc78 Browsers already got bloated enough, so much so that I'm more for stripping out functionality than adding any new ones.
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:33:51 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     @ryo I can smell the troonshine from here. Holy shit lmao
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:34:27 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     • Kerosene :ancapshades:
     @kerosene @xianc78 @ryo The problem with Flash is it simply got replaced by HTML5/JS/WASM and websites didn't get less bloated. They just got bloated without plugins this time around.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:36:32 JST 寮

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     • Kerosene :ancapshades:
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     @PhenomX6 @kerosene @xianc78 Don't forget CSS3, HTML5 is the only one of the 3 that never gets "minified" by the way (which ironically doesn't make the files anything more minimal, it's the same bloat, but all on 1 line instead of over 9000 lines).
     Also, WASM came a whole lot later.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:37:32 JST 寮

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     @PhenomX6 And I wonder how low the far-left fascists like @PeerTube_Isolation are willing to continue to sink...
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:39:13 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     @ryo @PeerTube_Isolation They would shoot themselves if it meant the "bad people" couldn't use their software. That crowd is all about aesthetics and image over if it does what it says on the tin.
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:41:11 JST opal

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     @xianc78 @ryo sadly bittorrent is not webtorrent so i cant even cross-seed with a regular client without building webtorrent support in it which is stupid they arent the same swarms reeee
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:41:23 JST opal

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     • Kerosene :ancapshades:
     @kerosene @xianc78 @ryo it'd be better if the modern web browser was eradicated from every computing environment
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:41:33 JST opal

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     @PhenomX6 @kerosene @xianc78 @ryo strictly from a security standpoint i prefer v8 over flash or java any day.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:42:41 JST 寮

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     @wowaname @kerosene @xianc78 For that to happen we'll need to eradicate the normies off the internet first.
     Or otherwise we just move to the darknet, and let the clearnet continue to rot.
     Let the normies roll in the shit they themselves have created.
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:42:57 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     • opal
     @wowaname @kerosene @xianc78 @ryo Well yeah, Flash was really bad in that regard because it was a literal black box.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:43:49 JST 寮

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     @wowaname @PhenomX6 @kerosene @xianc78 The only good thing HTML5 has that other HTML's don't is video and audio support.
     Other than that, XHTML 1.1 is the only true standard.
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:43:51 JST opal

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     • Kerosene :ancapshades:
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     @ryo @PhenomX6 @kerosene @xianc78 html5 is the only html specification worth trying to salvage
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:43:57 JST opal

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     • Kerosene :ancapshades:
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     @PhenomX6 @kerosene @xianc78 @ryo that had access to system resources
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:44:12 JST opal

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     @ryo @kerosene @xianc78
     >eradicate the normies
     no just stop being lazy and start designing better software and systems, thats what im doing. the normalfags are not getting in my way
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:46:10 JST 寮

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     • opal
     @wowaname @kerosene @xianc78 I too am doing that, many of us are actually.
     Though I don't think it's going to solve the problem of browsers being bloated pieces of shit if stuff doesn't get fixed on the browser level first, and we'd still have "based" people using soydev stuff like JS frameworks or frameworks for any other language that doesn't need any (like PHP and Go).
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:46:30 JST opal

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     • Kerosene :ancapshades:
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     @ryo @PhenomX6 @kerosene @xianc78 i generate my websites in XHTML5, it is semantically more expressive than HTML4/XHTML1.1 with the new tags
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:46:32 JST opal

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     @ryo @PhenomX6 @kerosene @xianc78 https://wowana.me/pages/htss.xht
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:47:40 JST 寮

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     • opal
     @wowaname @PhenomX6 @kerosene @xianc78 Ah, never heard of that one.
     Thanks, I'll read through it.
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:52:05 JST opal

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     • opal
     @ryo @kerosene @xianc78 what i mean is let soyjacks coom to their javascript while i write real stuff lol
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:52:06 JST opal

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     • xianc78
     • Kerosene :ancapshades:
     @ryo @kerosene @xianc78 my end goal for web browsers is to stop using them entirely. i already have native software for xmpp, telegram, email, soulseek, bittorrent, irc. i use mpv and youtube-dl to get around watching videos in my browser (plus my WM shoves all mpv windows onto my tv). it's good that you're also working on stuff but i'm telling you that "eradicating" any specific class of users from computing is very counterproductive and will amount to absolutely nothing except for a waste of your time
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:52:08 JST opal

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     @ryo @PhenomX6 @kerosene @xianc78 it's literally a thing i drafted in a day and forgot about lol, but it gives an idea as to where i stand on html
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 13:57:15 JST 寮

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     @wowaname @PhenomX6 @kerosene @xianc78
     
     > Any HTML5 tag or attribute marked deprecated.
     > Any HTML5 tag or attribute marked nonstandard and/or vendor-specific.
     
     I don't think it's really sustainable in the long run, considering the WHATWG (which consists entirely of all the major browser makers, which also control the browser engines almost all browsers use these days) is still calling the shots that way.
     
     To me it seems more like a cope to the problems HTML5 creates rather than an attempt to make the web less bloated.
     But if it works for you, then so be it.
     To me XHTML 1.1 is what works.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 14:15:32 JST 寮

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     @wowaname @PhenomX6 @kerosene @xianc78 Who is timbl though?
     I think W3C is the lesser evil (which is still evil), but what really made me want to dump them was them going with Cuckflare, and therefore becoming inaccessible while using Tor.
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 14:15:33 JST opal

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     @PhenomX6 @kerosene @ryo @xianc78 i am HIGHLY sceptical of w3c/whatwg especially after pwning timbl so i dont just blindly go trusting them, the html5 working spec has been fine so far though
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 14:15:34 JST opal

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     @ryo @PhenomX6 @kerosene @xianc78 in fact i think css is fucking useless
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 14:15:36 JST opal

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     @ryo @PhenomX6 @kerosene @xianc78
     >problems HTML5 creates
     you never really specified what problems those were. css3 and ecmascript are entirely divorced from html5. i don't support either of those going forward.
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     Anornymorse (anornymorse@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2022 22:22:15 JST Anornymorse

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     @ryo @wowaname @kerosene @xianc78 This is the only answer.
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 01:29:45 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     @wowaname @kerosene @xianc78 @ryo I never used CSS when I made web pages in school for class and they wanted you to use CSS so desperately for some fucking reason. The only thing that's good about it is you can style several pages at once.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 01:29:53 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     It’s silly that they block people for conspiracy videos.
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     xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 01:30:42 JST xianc78

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     @PhenomX6 @wowaname @kerosene @ryo
     >The only thing that's good about it is you can style several pages at once.

     Which also can be done if you have sever-side scripting or static-site generation scripts (you can easily whip up a simple static-site generator in almost any scripting language). CSS should've been deprecated but HTML5 pretty much makes it mandatory to use CSS for styling. You can't even align text without CSS in HTML5.

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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 01:31:10 JST opal

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     @xianc78 @PhenomX6 @kerosene @ryo what in holy hell are you on about? html itself should not have any styling capabilities.
     
     the only reason i use css still, is because there isnt a good web browser that shows me just the content of a page, and there arent good web standards that will promise me that webadmins will only serve me content in a format that doesn't require a thousand gigabytes of layout and scripts
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 01:31:57 JST 寮

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     • opal
     @wowaname @PhenomX6 @kerosene @xianc78 Sounds like you might want to try browsing the internet using the Gemini protocol.
     No JS, no CSS, though also no HTML.
     But it's plain text.