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bot (ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1@mostr.pub)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 00:52:16 JST bot Let’s not play semantic games, your app literally does hide my posts and discourages ppl from seeing them by falsely labelling them as “inappropriate” “spam”. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 00:52:16 JST Alex Gleason @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @NEETzsche @nolasco @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b Such entitlement. Learn to code.
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 00:56:00 JST Alex Gleason @eris @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @NEETzsche @nolasco @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b Your course of action is to fork Amethyst and remove that bit and then convince people to use your fork. But you won’t because you don’t care enough.
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Eris (eris@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 00:56:02 JST Eris @alex @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @NEETzsche @nolasco @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b Developers are not entitled to censor people just because they can technically engineer something to do it. They will burn for eternity in Hell and God will censor their cries for relief. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 00:57:14 JST Alex Gleason @nolasco @NEETzsche @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 Lol maybe if you actually PAID MONEY TO OPEN SOURCE DEVELOPERS your argument would be even vaguely coherent. Go back to Facebook if you want to speak to the manager.
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nolasco (nolasco@iddqd.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 00:57:15 JST nolasco That's like going to a restaurant and saying learn to cook if you didn't like the meal. Learn to build your own house, learn to make your own car, learn to make your own ISP, learn to make your own clothes, learn to raise your own farm, learn how to make your own medicine, I can't learn how to do everything. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:00:09 JST Alex Gleason @nolasco @NEETzsche @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 Okay so now donate at least $100 to Amethyst and ask nicely to make the reporting stuff configurable.
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nolasco (nolasco@iddqd.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:00:10 JST nolasco Says who nigga? I've donated to open source projects before what are you getting assblasted over -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:01:16 JST Alex Gleason @nolasco @NEETzsche @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 Lol see you don’t actually care. You’re not even an Amethyst user, you just want to argue. That’s okay.
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nolasco (nolasco@iddqd.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:01:17 JST nolasco No, cause fuck you now. -
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anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:01:31 JST anime graf mays ?️? @alex @NEETzsche @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 give me a link ill send 100$ just to ignore whatever this guy asks for regardless what it is Alex Gleason likes this. -
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:04:45 JST NEETzsche This thread makes me want to make an Amethyst fork where I find the if statement that checks to see if a post should be hidden, and just makes it if false. Just make the lowest IQ commit to fix the problem and do literally nothing else to it. :anintellectual:
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nolasco (nolasco@iddqd.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:04:46 JST nolasco You don't even work on Amethyst, you just want to argue. That's okay. -
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nolasco (nolasco@iddqd.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:05:14 JST nolasco Fuck man if it's that easy fuck I'll learn how to do it Alex Gleason likes this. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:05:23 JST Alex Gleason @NEETzsche @nolasco @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 Based.
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:10:01 JST Alex Gleason @eris @nolasco @NEETzsche @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 People absolutely should be building our own everything. What do you think THIS IS! Yes, fight for what you believe in, achieve the possible.
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Eris (eris@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:10:02 JST Eris @nolasco @alex @NEETzsche @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 Alex probably unironically thinks this. Lolberts are cancer. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:11:00 JST Alex Gleason @NEETzsche @nolasco @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 You have to actually make your version better for people to use it.
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:11:01 JST NEETzsche People do this sort of shit in professional projects all the time. The only problem is it doesn’t effect third parties. People who want this feature (federated jannying, I’m calling it) will still use regular Amethyst. So it doesn’t really bypass the thing fully. Unfortunately.
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Eris (eris@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:13:46 JST Eris @NEETzsche @alex @nolasco @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 The only reason the Fedi doesn’t have it is because it’s already cucked without client intervention. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:13:46 JST Alex Gleason @eris @NEETzsche @nolasco @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 The reason fedi doesn’t have it is because Mastodon reports are anonymous and it already has janny middlemen. An client-side open source algorithm users can control is actually significantly better that some emotional admins going on a power trip.
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:13:47 JST NEETzsche I actually agree with this take entirely, but I really do just want to bitch about and mock Nostr for implementing federated jannying. It’s so ridiculous I’m going to have a really good laugh about it every time someone brings the service up like I’m supposed to actually use this shit, lol, lmfao
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:32:47 JST Alex Gleason @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 @NEETzsche @eris @nolasco @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b You know, once you get your head stuck on something it’s impossible to argue even if you’re dead wrong. So I ask you to take a step back for a moment and look at the situation objectively. This is a client-side app that USERS make the conscious decision to install because they want to use that app. It represents a PORTION of the Nostr network where users have OPTED-IN to that behavior. The underlying Nostr protocol is resistant to censorship, but it enables developers to build tools that give users CHOICES about what content they want to see. Just like it’s your freedom to shitpost on the network, it’s THEIR freedom to choose tools that hide posts they believe they don’t want so see. Think about it.
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bot (ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1@mostr.pub)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:32:48 JST bot A better term is democratic jannying. -
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bot (ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1@mostr.pub)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:46:10 JST bot I thought about it when I was informed by someone that my posts were marked as inappropriate spam. They didn’t understand why that was, but I figured it out p quickly because someone else told me about the reports earlier. So let’s review:
1. My posts are not inappropriate spam, and should not be hidden or labelled as such.
2. Users clearly don’t understand how it works, except the ones that do and use it as a means to censor ppl through false spam reports.
3. Shared blocklists like fediblock and “democratic censorship” like this are cancer and shouldn’t be encouraged. Like ToxicPositivity said, spammers just create a ton of new accounts so this “feature” doesn’t actually solve the spam problem.Alex Gleason likes this. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:48:15 JST Alex Gleason @NEETzsche @eris @nolasco @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 That’s basically already this thread.
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Eris (eris@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:48:16 JST Eris @NEETzsche @alex @nolasco @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 All you have to do to be a manager on Nostr is connect to a half dozen relays and harass subversive client developers until they kill themselves. Cheaper, less technical work, less liability. No feudal jannies walling you off from users. Better. -
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:48:16 JST NEETzsche >write a script that automatically generates new Nostr keys
>they all follow each other and updoot each other's posts
>they all connect to OpenAI's API to generate credible death threats against developers who write code I don't like
>each request is made from either Tor or some other VPN-esque proxy service so they can never figure out who is writing these
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Eris (eris@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:48:17 JST Eris @nolasco @alex @NEETzsche @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 It matters a lot actually don’t join in if you don’t even know what the problem is. -
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:48:17 JST NEETzsche The problem is you’d rather bitch about Nostr for 10 hours because you prefer “democratic jannying” to becoming a lord on the fediverse by flipping burgers for 1hr and making your own instance.
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nolasco (nolasco@iddqd.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:48:18 JST nolasco Whatever the fuck -
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Eris (eris@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:48:19 JST Eris @nolasco @alex @NEETzsche @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 There are no relays marking your posts as spam. That’s not how it works. You don’t even know what we’re talking about. -
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nolasco (nolasco@iddqd.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:48:20 JST nolasco At least my fedi janny isn't some relay who will mark my bullshit as spam and I actually know this guy -
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Eris (eris@gleasonator.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:48:21 JST Eris @NEETzsche @ba2883fb4a7f62cb851b9f5411659791cffb2e3fc8b90f683ee5091f413880a1 @alex @nolasco @460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d972f60dcdc3212ed8c92ef85065c @9ca0bd7450742d6a20319c0e3d4c679c9e046a9dc70e8ef55c2905e24052340b No you didn’t, you’re just a cope machine. Nostr with democratic jannies is still better than Fedi’s feudal jannies. -
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Mar-2023 01:48:22 JST NEETzsche Well, whatever you want to call it, it’s ridiculous, and makes me not want to go to Nostr. I really thought they were onto something, too, something better than fedi.
Nope.
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