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   Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Mar-2023 01:06:44 JST Alex Gleason

   What they call “the Gossip model” in Nostr is actually just the Fediverse.

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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Mar-2023 01:37:50 JST Alex Gleason

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     • mikedilger

     @ee11a5dff40c19a555f41fe42b48f00e618c91225622ae37b6c2bb67b76c4e49 View the source of the event, it links back to the OP. Users can’t override the nip05 of the bridge yet.

     I like to test my theories by throwing out statements and seeing if anyone argues with them.

     From my understanding the gossip model is about finding posts at their origin. The current Nostr model is manual relay management. With the gossip model users don’t have to think so hard about relays. On the Fediverse people don’t have to think about it either, because it “just works”. The place to find the post is encoded in the post itself.

     There’s some arcane knowledge in the Fediverse that Nostriches shouldn’t ignore.

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     mikedilger (ee11a5dff40c19a555f41fe42b48f00e618c91225622ae37b6c2bb67b76c4e49@mostr.pub)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Mar-2023 01:37:51 JST mikedilger

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     Is this really Alex Gleason or is this a satire account? That nip-05 of alex_at_gleasonator.com@mostr.pub doesn't verify anything, why not alex@gleasonator.com?
     
     But no the models are different. Nostr doesn't have federation.
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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Mar-2023 02:07:46 JST Alex Gleason

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     @ee11a5dff40c19a555f41fe42b48f00e618c91225622ae37b6c2bb67b76c4e49 I know the whole paradigm is different, but here’s what’s the same:

     Nostr: [“e”, “123456”, “ wss://mysite.com”]

     Fediverse: https://mysite.com/123456

     On the Fediverse, the server URL is not optional. On Nostr it is, leading to relay centralization. Gossip wants the relay URL to be there. Maybe it shouldn’t even be optional? Then things will work so much better… like they do on the Fediverse. And I completely agree with it.

     Not sure I directly answered your question. But here’s some related food for thought: https://soapbox.pub/blog/discovering-content/

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     mikedilger (ee11a5dff40c19a555f41fe42b48f00e618c91225622ae37b6c2bb67b76c4e49@mostr.pub)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Mar-2023 02:07:47 JST mikedilger

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     Ok I looked into the event, looked at the page at gleasonator.com, and I'm going with the working hypothesis that your Alex Gleason.
     
     So I have many questions. First, if the place to find a post is encoded in the post, 2 things immediately spring to mind: (1) that's a catch-22, I don't know where to find it, I can't find it to find out where to find it, and (2) what if that place decides to delete that post?
     
     Second (for now I'll leave it at this) when you talk of arcane knowledge, are you referring to some technical knowledge, or contents of posts that could be accessed via a bridge?
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     mikedilger (ee11a5dff40c19a555f41fe42b48f00e618c91225622ae37b6c2bb67b76c4e49@mostr.pub)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Mar-2023 04:24:34 JST mikedilger

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     Very similar experience from a user perspective to how gossip works. Just follow people and you won't get mobbed.
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