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   Chris Trottier (atomicpoet@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 19:48:23 JST Chris Trottier

   • Tim Bray

   Interesting! If @timbray were a VC, he’d stay away from the Fediverse.

   Yes, let’s spread this narrative.

   10x ROI won’t be achievable. Monetization isn’t possible. There’s nothing to see here.

   ??

   https://hachyderm.io/@timbray/109943677801646774

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     Steve Bate (steve@social.technoetic.com)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 19:48:21 JST Steve Bate

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     • Jim Parsons
     • Tim Bray

     @TryshHQ @atomicpoet @timbray It seems to me that it has already happened. Google captures and indexes Fediverse content (at least Mastodon) to support its advertising business.

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     Jim Parsons (tryshhq@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 19:48:22 JST Jim Parsons

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     • Tim Bray

     @atomicpoet @timbray
     The ‘social media' phenomenon was about capturing & monetizing (+leveraging for political purposes) digital exhaust of human behaviours. What's to stop or thwart that same model - on #mastodon / in #fediverse / or #activitypub ? – asking for a planet.

     #SiliconValley
     #SocialMedia
     #BigTech
     #VC #USPoli
     #Privacy
     #Surveillance
     #SurveillanceCapitalism

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     Mike Garuccio (mgaruccio@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 02-Mar-2023 17:35:02 JST Mike Garuccio

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     • Tim Bray

     @atomicpoet @timbray

     As someone whose day job is competing with AWS’s core business, I can say pretty definitively that there’s still plenty of room in a market after they enter it. The awesome teams at digital ocean, linode, vultr, and a host of others can confirm.

     Fediverse is an especially rich market for “not Amazon” given built-in hostility to that particular provider in the community.

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     IMPROVE PEOPLE _NOT JUST TECH_ (freeschool@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 02-Mar-2023 17:35:10 JST IMPROVE PEOPLE _NOT JUST TECH_

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     • Jim Parsons
     • Tim Bray
     • Steve Bate

     @steve @TryshHQ @atomicpoet @timbray Good point (I redrafted my msg so include your reply below to which I mean "Good point" to). Sounds like you know your stuff and went through profile options...

     Steve you said begore i redrafted:
     "AFAIK, I have all Mastodon instance-level discoverability options disabled. I don't think confirming followers will make a difference on this topic. Even robots.txt won't help.

     Google will still index your Fediverse content when it appears in the timelines of other sites that have discoverability enabled and have a more liberal robots.txt policy"

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     IMPROVE PEOPLE _NOT JUST TECH_ (freeschool@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 02-Mar-2023 17:35:11 JST IMPROVE PEOPLE _NOT JUST TECH_

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     • Jim Parsons
     • Tim Bray
     • Steve Bate

     @steve @TryshHQ @atomicpoet @timbray
     MASTODON OPTIONS YOU CAN TURN OFF...
     □ search indexing
     □ make your network / followers hidden or less public by default
     □ put locks on and need confirmation before accepting follow requests

     Wouldn't recommend that search engine... (Searx.Org as alternative)
     But point taken for sure 100%.

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     Steve Bate (steve@social.technoetic.com)'s status on Thursday, 02-Mar-2023 17:35:12 JST Steve Bate

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     • IMPROVE PEOPLE _NOT JUST TECH_
     • Jim Parsons
     • Tim Bray

     @freeschool @TryshHQ @atomicpoet @timbray RE: Google captures and indexes Fediverse content.

     Try a Google search for "freeschool@qoto.org" (with the quotes). I see posts/replies to and from your account going back to at least June 2022. AFAICT, your profile itself isn't indexed (mine is). I don't know the quality/speed of the crawling and indexing, but I've seen new posts indexed within a few days.

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     IMPROVE PEOPLE _NOT JUST TECH_ (freeschool@qoto.org)'s status on Thursday, 02-Mar-2023 17:35:13 JST IMPROVE PEOPLE _NOT JUST TECH_

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     • Jim Parsons
     • Tim Bray
     • Steve Bate

     @steve @TryshHQ @atomicpoet @timbray
     RE: Google captures and indexes Fediverse content (at least Mastodon)

     Hi Steve, please say more about this more directly (like how and some examples). It's very important to me and others on Mastodon...