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   🚲 (dx@social.ridetrans.it)'s status on Monday, 27-Feb-2023 09:53:41 JST 🚲

   “The reason most public transportation is seen as ‘losing’ money is precisely because it charges for trips. If you don't charge fares, suddenly it can't ‘lose’ money. It just costs money, the same as the roads.”

   This random comment has given me my new favourite argument for removing fares from public transit.

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 08:40:09 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     • Björn

     @thaodan I'd really like to know the total cost of all the infrastructure needed to collect fares. It's quite a market I guess. @dx

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     Björn (thaodan@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 11-Nov-2024 08:40:10 JST Björn

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     • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

     @dx @jwildeboer The worst argument against such things is public transport can't be free because
     then nobody is contributing their part and getting something for free. I don't know exactly how to explain this but it is this mindset of nothing should be free, don't be a freeloader.
     It's almost like some kind of envy of not wanting the other to get something they don't deserve . Greedy and envy go over logic.
     Logic because without checks public transport would be much cheaper to finance.

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     Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Nov-2024 11:12:45 JST Alexandre Oliva

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     interesting... freeways in Brazil are often non-gratis because they're privatized and then toll booths become profit centers, justified as funding the maintenance. it appears to make sense to have the people who most use the road to fund its maintenance, but the same argument could apply to public transportation. but somehow the latter makes it clearer how little sense that makes, and how much sense it makes to consider both as public infrastructure maintained with progressive/redistributive taxing, rather than burdening those who happen to have to rely more often on public infrastructure just because they lack the privilege it would take to be able to do otherwise