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   Irina (irina@wandering.shop)'s status on Monday, 13-Feb-2023 01:33:23 JST Irina

   • Denis Buckley

   @wellingtonrock Boosting this *with* alt text because everybody should be able to read it.

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     sofia ☮️🏴 (sofia@chaos.social)'s status on Monday, 13-Feb-2023 01:33:10 JST sofia ☮️🏴

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     • MaryMarasKittenBakery

     @MaryMarasKittenBakery @irina @wellingtonrock well, it seems to me that the point is that in some ways it's easy to pretend that state-run healthcare has no cost for people and no hunderlying exploitation and power structures to worry about…

     maybe i'm missing something ?…?

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     MaryMarasKittenBakery (marymaraskittenbakery@troet.cafe)'s status on Monday, 13-Feb-2023 01:33:18 JST MaryMarasKittenBakery

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     @sofia @irina @wellingtonrock
     This seems such a short sighted take, completely missing the point.

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     sofia ☮️🏴 (sofia@chaos.social)'s status on Monday, 13-Feb-2023 01:33:20 JST sofia ☮️🏴

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     • Denis Buckley

     @irina @wellingtonrock according to a quick web search, the average salary of a doctor in the UK is 4400·£ which is roughly 10 times what i get as an unemployed person in germany.

     so for me they do seem rather rich to me, but regardless, i say that it is decent evidence that there would be quite a bit less healthcare happening if people if noone made money with it…

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     Irina (irina@wandering.shop)'s status on Monday, 13-Feb-2023 01:33:21 JST Irina

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     • Denis Buckley

     @sofia @wellingtonrock They do! They just don't get rich like, well, rich people.

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     sofia ☮️🏴 (sofia@chaos.social)'s status on Monday, 13-Feb-2023 01:33:22 JST sofia ☮️🏴

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     • Denis Buckley

     @irina @wellingtonrock doctors don't get paid, that's stupid.

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     sofia ☮️🏴 (sofia@chaos.social)'s status on Monday, 13-Feb-2023 01:34:07 JST sofia ☮️🏴

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     • joesabin

     @joesabin @irina @wellingtonrock i did not mean or attempt to delegitimate their income. i was just saying that financial incentives are there and that itself is not the problem.

     i guess the long training combined with long hours could be an indication that there is a barrier-to-entry problem, but that doesn't mean doctors want that or are to blame for it…

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     joesabin (joesabin@mastodon.world)'s status on Monday, 13-Feb-2023 01:34:08 JST joesabin

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     @sofia @irina @wellingtonrock

     How can you compare unemployment to compensation to a doctor who spent a minimum of seven years in school to get their degree, then three years in hospital as intern and resident? Nothing in that meme suggested no one makes money or that they shouldn't be compensated for their skill, education, and work. Just that the hospital is not taking advantage of sick people to make money for investors.

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     MaryMarasKittenBakery (marymaraskittenbakery@troet.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Feb-2023 16:23:39 JST MaryMarasKittenBakery

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     • Denis Buckley

     @sofia @irina @wellingtonrock
     The point OP makes is not "no cost" but "not just for profit" aka not a health care system who's sole goal is profit.
     There's a difference.
     And how devastating health care becomes when profit trumps health can be seen already..

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