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   MattZ (colinsmatt11@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Feb-2023 17:27:00 JST MattZ
   PDF is only moderately good thing Adobe has ever done.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Feb-2023 17:26:59 JST 翠星石

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     • James from DistroToot ?
     @colinsmatt11 >PDF is only moderately good thing Adobe has ever done.
     Ehh, pdf is actually a bad format you know?
     
     I only use it as everything else sucks more and plenty of free software handles pdf's (plus it also has some nice features like vector graphics).
     
     @james >is that Adobe made it an open standard for documents
     Where did you read that?
     "Adobe" did NOT make pdf an "open standard".
     
     "Adobe" does provide a specification and a standard for pdf (licensed proprietarily), except they were "nice" enough to allow anyone to implement it.
     
     The catch is that "Adobe" has a bunch of software patents on parts of the pdf standard and only licenses those patents provided that the viewer/render is compliant to the standard.
     If "Adobe" ever wants to get rid of a pdf viewer (maybe soon seeing how garbage their pdf viewer is and the state of pdf viewers that use mupdf and poppler. Maybe once either gets rudimentary editing features?), all they need to do is find something that doesn't match the pdf specification and then they can withdraw the patent grants.
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     James from DistroToot ? (james@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Sunday, 05-Feb-2023 17:27:00 JST James from DistroToot ?

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     @colinsmatt11 What's good about the PDF is that Adobe made it an open standard for documents. That's why we all use it.