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mdn (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 16-Jan-2023 18:16:59 JST mdn

https://gizmodo.com/apple-iphone-analytics-tracking-even-when-off-app-store-1849757558

https://www.androidcentral.com/apps-software/google-23-million-dollar-search-privacy-settlement
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  @Zerglingman @captain_arepa It's not only an issue of networking it's also an issue of client/server hardware/software. In the current world context, digital/internet voting is completely moronic to do.
  You basically have to have 100% of all hardware to be trust able, which isn't possible, same for software.
  It's easier to have the current model, to have people move to vote at central point as the attack surface is a billion times smaller, but still the hardware/software for such voting system must be auditable publicly, which isn't the case either. So paper is still more trust able than computers but again the other issue is then human trust ability which is also a point of failure when you have a majority of the population demoralized/alienated.
  
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  @mangeurdenuage @captain_arepa I wonder if monero (network) could be used for voting.
  
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  @captain_arepa I'm still impressed that people still trust any hardware/software that is proprietary.
  
  ~2 weeks ago I chatted with a guy working in a thinktank and he was convinced that digital voting was the best solution for elections...until I showed him the fiasco of Estonia elections.
  See this if you haven't yet https://media.ccc.de/v/31c3_-_6344_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201412281400_-_security_analysis_of_estonia_s_internet_voting_system_-_j_alex_halderman
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    Security Analysis of Estonia's Internet Voting System
    
    from J. Alex Halderman
    
    Estonia is the only country in the world that relies on Internet voting in a significant way for legally-binding national elections — up ...
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  @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club I'm still impressed people "trust" what corpos say :akko_wtf:
  
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  >The entry points could still be compromised
  That's what I'm trying to explain but people don't seem to understand it.
  And outside of that it needs to be anonymous, which isn't possible with current TCP/IP networking model. GNUnet solves that, but again, hardware backdoor issue.
  
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  @Zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club The entry points could still be compromised. While the whole blockchain can be "reliable" in the sense of "yeah, unique and undeletable transactions and wotnot", the hardware and software where the input is done can (and will) be tampered with, even if they're publicly audited (because, again, politics).
  
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  @mangeurdenuage @captain_arepa >You basically have to have 100% of all hardware to be trust able, which isn't possible, same for software.
  The whole point of bitcoin is that you only need the majority (however much it is), to be legit, isn't it? And monero uses the same fundamental principles.
  And I think that's not an unreasonable ask.
  
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  How many normies do you know who are capable of understand this ?
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OR_gate
  How many normies do you know who are capable of understand this ?
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper
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    OR gate
    
    The OR gate is a digital logic gate that implements logical disjunction. The OR gate returns true if either or both of its inputs are true; otherwise it returns false. The input and output states are normally represented by different voltage levels. Description The gate accepts two inputs. It outputs a 1 if either or both of these inputs are 1, or outputs a 0 only if both inputs are 0. The inputs and outputs are binary digits ("bits") which have two possible logical states. In addition to 1 and 0, these states may be called true and false, high and low, active and inactive, or other such pairs of symbols. Thus it performs logical disjunction (∨) from mathematical logic. The gate can be represented with the plus sign (+) because it can be used for logical addition. Equivalently, an OR gate finds the maximum between two binary digits, just as the AND gate finds the minimum.Together with the AND gate and the NOT gate, the OR gate is one of three basic logic gates from which any Boolean circuit may be constructed. All other logic gates may be made from these three gates; any function in binary mathematics...
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    Paper
    
    Paper is a thin sheet material produced by mechanically or chemically processing cellulose fibres derived from wood, rags, grasses or other vegetable sources in water, draining the water through fine mesh leaving the fibre evenly distributed on the surface, followed by pressing and drying. Although paper was originally made in single sheets by hand, almost all is now made on large machines—some making reels 10 metres wide, running at 2,000 metres per minute and up to 600,000 tonnes a year. It is a versatile material with many uses, including printing, painting, graphics, signage, design, packaging, decorating, writing, and cleaning. It may also be used as filter paper, wallpaper, book endpaper, conservation paper, laminated worktops, toilet tissue, or currency and security paper, or in a number of industrial and construction processes. The papermaking process developed in east Asia, probably China, at least as early as 105 CE, by the Han court eunuch Cai Lun, although the earliest archaeological fragments of paper derive from the 2nd century BCE in China...
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  @mangeurdenuage @captain_arepa I need to figure out how to make ytdlp pull subtitles.
  
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  @mangeurdenuage @captain_arepa >an entire 1:20 of sellout at the end
  lmao
  
  His comments on blockchain amount to:
  "1. They're complicated
  2. People need to be able to understand the process
  3. Therefore give up."
  
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  @captain_arepa @mangeurdenuage 1/3 of the way through and other than setting/intro he's basically said "it must all be open-source and auditable or you've failed right there, and probably that will never happen, therefore don't even try".
  ...
  I think this guy is actually just incapable of making coherent arguments. I honestly have more respect for Ben Shapiro.
  Tom Scott should stick to comedy and keep his kike dick sucking behind the scenes.
  
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  https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI
  https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=LkH2r-sNjQs
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    Why Electronic Voting is a BAD Idea - Computerphile
    
    Voting is centuries old, why can't we move with the times and use our phones, tablets and computers? Tom Scott lays out why e-voting is such a bad idea. More from Tom Scott: http://www.youtube.com/user/enyay and https://twitter.com/tomscott http://www.facebook.com/computerphile https://twitter.com/computer_phile This video was filmed and edited by Sean Riley. Computer Science at the University of Nottingham: http://bit.ly/nottscomputer Computerphile is a sister project to Brady Haran's Numberphile. See the full list of Brady's video projects at: http://bit.ly/bradychannels
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    Why Electronic Voting Is Still A Bad Idea
    
    We still shouldn't be using electronic voting. Here's why. • Sponsored by Dashlane — for free on your first device @ https://www.dashlane.com/tomscott MORE BASICS: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL96C35uN7xGLLeET0dOWaKHkAlPsrkcha REFERENCES: Computerphile video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI Stories about voter identification happening outside the law: https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-1051,00.html Voting machines left connected to the internet: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3kxzk9/exclusive-critical-us-election-systems-have-been-left-exposed-online-despite-official-denials Hackers getting voting machines to play Doom: https://www.salon.com/2019/08/14/hackers-can-easily-break-into-voting-machines-used-across-the-u-s-play-doom-nirvana/ "Small, well-funded team backed by a national government": https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/25/us/politics/russian-hacking-elections.html Scottish election: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2007/jun/20/scotland.devolution and http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6627657.stm - with the Excel detail on page 50 of https://www.openrightsgroup.org/wp-content/uploads/org_election_report.pdf?page=50 Report on e-voting in Estonia: https://estoniaevoting.org/ Written with Sean Elliott https://twitter.com/SeanMElliott/ Directed by Tomek Graphics by Mooviemakers https://www.mooviemakers.co.uk/ Audio mix by Haerther Productions https://haerther.net/ I'm at https://tomscott.com on Twitter at https://twitter.com/tomscott on Facebook at https://facebook.com/tomscott and on Instagram as tomscottgo
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  @mangeurdenuage @captain_arepa >computerphile
  Sounds like a shill to me, especially with those extremely jewtube titles.
  
  Oh it's nigger scott. I've seen the first one, he completely ignores blockchain approaches. Maybe it is in the second one, I will look.
  
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  @Zerglingman @captain_arepa Nope.
  
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  @mangeurdenuage @captain_arepa Where does it fail?
  
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  @mangeurdenuage @Zerglingman @captain_arepa GUI was a mistake
  
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  @mangeurdenuage @captain_arepa I was being generous in assuming that was a troll question, given the alternative is to assume it's retarded.
  
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  @Zerglingman @captain_arepa It's retarded but correct, the knowledge of most computer users is abysmal, there aren't a lot of competent techs compared to the amounts of users. And even less if you sort by ethical techs.
  
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  >Go away, troll.
  If I was trolling I ask how many people would you need to corrupt a light bulb/voting machine but I'm not doing that.
  
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  @mangeurdenuage @captain_arepa How many can understand a lightbulb?
  Go away, troll.
  
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  No, they are interface, which you can call 'command line' and idiot proof interface, which is GUI
  
  GUI doesnt require you to learn how to use it, just like automatic gearbox
  
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  Better comparison would be an automatic gearbox
  and yes, world would be better without it, imagine the place where americans cant commute en masse
  
  same thing with computers
  
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  @xue @Zerglingman @captain_arepa @mangeurdenuage No, no. The driving wheel and pedals and whatnot are an interface designed to allow you to operate the car's components even if you do not know how they exactly operate (GUI). Whereas an automatic gearbox is an interface designed to change the gears on your behalf even if you know how it's changing them (AI). Not the same thing.
  
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  @xue @mangeurdenuage @Zerglingman @captain_arepa >GUI was a mistake
  
  Because everyone drives their car by manually moving their cylinders, that's how we can distribute goods efficiently, by only having elites be capable of moving things with cars and pulling content from Wikipedia.
  
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