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    JP (jplebreton@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 14:40:07 JST JP JP

    https://blacktwitter.io/@bibliotecaria/109650353375080864 I would expect people like librarians and teachers to have a lot more stories like this in the near future. Text generators have been marketed in an incredibly irresponsible way and laypeople don't understand the most fundamental things about them: that they don't actually *understand* anything, have no concept of truth, are just as willing to tell you something completely fabricated, and increasing the % of truth isn't a simple matter of more compute or training data.

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      Wanda Whitney (@bibliotecaria@blacktwitter.io)
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      Been seeing a lot about #ChatGPT lately and got my first question at the library this week from someone who was looking for a book that the bot had recommended. They couldn't find it in our catalog. Turns out that ALL the books that ChatGPT had recommended for their topic were non-existent. Just real authors and fake titles cobbled together. And apparently this is known behavior. ?
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      hypolite (hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 15:02:50 JST hypolite hypolite
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      • Kit Indigo
      @kitindigo @jplebreton I don't believe it will ever deliver relevant content, no matter who owns it. Current efforts are underway for delivered content to look relevant, though.

      And lately it has worked pretty well, until you try to map the content onto reality like in the originally mentioned post.
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      Kit Indigo (kitindigo@mastodon.online)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 15:02:57 JST Kit Indigo Kit Indigo
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      @jplebreton So, for the tldr crowd, what you're saying is AI's delivery of relevant content is entirely dependent on which guy owns it?

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      JP (jplebreton@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 15:02:58 JST JP JP
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      And that's by design! Because companies like OpenAI and their investors stand to make a lot more money if people treat these things like The All-Seeing Oracle rather than "that one hyperconfident white dude acquaintance who claims to have read everything ever written, whose answers on anything important you always need to fact check".

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      JP (jplebreton@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 16:27:36 JST JP JP
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      @MrBerard the tech priests are absolutely complicit in this, the dynamic is just different from the golly-gee lay press who at least have the excuse of not knowing any better: the most powerful priests rely on a few of their number being wild-eyed acolytes (who play a key role in getting the lay press to start saying wild shit) and then playing the part of even-handed authority while making sure to not shut the zealots down completely. https://archive.is/J5J1T

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        A.I. Is Not Sentient. Why Do People Say It Is? - The New York Times
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      MrBerard 🫶 (mrberard@pilote.me)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 16:27:45 JST MrBerard 🫶 MrBerard 🫶
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      @jplebreton

      TBF, I think the lay media (as opposed to the priestly caste of technologist) is responsible for this. OpenAI and acolytes plaster disclaimers everywhere.

      But it's been two months and as more instances of grievous falsehoods emerge, the gen pop should become more aware of the limits.

      This isn't a Deep Learning thing, this kind of overhype to distrust to normalisation consistently happens as tech has loved faster than our ability to educate people about it.

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      MrBerard 🫶 (mrberard@pilote.me)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 22:08:03 JST MrBerard 🫶 MrBerard 🫶
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      @jplebreton oh, absolutely - but, as evidenced by your citing _a NYT Piece_ - none of that grandiose techno-mystical marketing would have any traction if the lay media wasn't amplifying it without enough critical reading, and presumably, the incentives of old and new media favouring high-engagement over accuracy...

      Which itself came from the algorithms and and industry of the very same tech caste... So to be fair it circles back to them!

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      Krista, Darth Møøse Shark (grrrr_shark@supervolcano.angryshark.eu)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 22:09:33 JST Krista, Darth Møøse Shark Krista, Darth Møøse Shark
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      @jplebreton I wish more people understood this about tech marketing hype.

      I really wish they did.

      SO many things are just "can we ride the scam until someone puts enough money into this to buy me out?"

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