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   Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.net)'s status on Saturday, 07-Jan-2023 19:17:51 JST Alexandre Oliva

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   • Kartik Agaram
   > downloading is a deliberate act
   
   it used to be the case that downloading and saving a local copy were distinguishable, but I've found that accessing a link to a remote .pdf file, that I meant to just view in the browser, lands it in my home dir, without my asking for it to be saved (or downloaded, if you equate those actions), which makes saving/downloading a lot less deliberate IMHO.
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     Kartik Agaram (akkartik@merveilles.town)'s status on Saturday, 07-Jan-2023 19:17:56 JST Kartik Agaram

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     • Luci for Chai Tea

     @zens I get that, but I definitely recall having access to downloaded porn after closing the window, back in the day.

     I mean, downloading is a deliberate act. One wonders how far the browser would go to pretend the act never occurred. Let's uninstall the program installed from the download? Delete all files created by by the program installed from the download?

     I don't think porn is the only use case for incognito windows anymore. Is it just me? ?

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     Luci for Chai Tea (zens@merveilles.town)'s status on Saturday, 07-Jan-2023 19:17:57 JST Luci for Chai Tea

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     • Kartik Agaram

     @akkartik the purpose is hiding your porn from your wife, to put it indelicately

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     Kartik Agaram (akkartik@merveilles.town)'s status on Saturday, 07-Jan-2023 19:17:58 JST Kartik Agaram

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     • Luci for Chai Tea

     @zens These are often sites I'm logging into. (My first line of defense is to just avoid sites with poor Javascript hygiene. But that's not always possible.)

     So the purpose is not masking my identity. The purpose is.. to be difficult? Clearly they're getting value out of certain practices. I want to minimize such value.

     Putting it in an incognito penalty box also reminds me to periodically question my relationship with the site.

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     Luci for Chai Tea (zens@merveilles.town)'s status on Saturday, 07-Jan-2023 19:17:59 JST Luci for Chai Tea

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     • Kartik Agaram

     @akkartik incognito mode actually does a pretty terrible job masking your identity from sites - if that were the point of it; but it isn’t.

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     Luci for Chai Tea (zens@merveilles.town)'s status on Saturday, 07-Jan-2023 19:18:00 JST Luci for Chai Tea

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     • Kartik Agaram

     @akkartik this is because privacy from *sites* is not the use case for incognito mode, privacy from other users of that computer is the use case

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     Kartik Agaram (akkartik@merveilles.town)'s status on Saturday, 07-Jan-2023 19:18:01 JST Kartik Agaram

     PSA: If you download stuff in an incognito window, Firefox will delete all your downloads -- off the _file_ system -- when you close the incognito window.

     I don't know how long this has been going on, but it can't have been always. Utterly inane and insane, particularly in a world where more and more work gets done in incognito windows.